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Offline john71  
#1 Posted : Friday, August 27, 2010 7:54:38 PM(UTC)
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what would cause white flakes or sediment to form in the dist. a few days after the run is complete? could it be from pushing the distillation to hard?
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#2 Posted : Saturday, August 28, 2010 12:40:45 AM(UTC)
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what would cause white flakes or sediment to form in the dist. a few days after the run is complete? could it be from pushing the distillation to hard?


Usually when the column pukes it is quite obvious(Distillate will be cloudy) I suggest you thoroughly clean kettle and column and any packing's you may be using.

What type of set up are you running?"
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#3 Posted : Saturday, August 28, 2010 5:23:25 AM(UTC)
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"Bayou-Ruler prolly has it.

Also;

Maybe you didn't run too hard........Maybe you overcharged your boiler?

Did you leave yourself some head space?"
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#4 Posted : Sunday, August 29, 2010 4:07:47 AM(UTC)
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Not sure... but run it through a carbon filter????
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#5 Posted : Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:52:14 PM(UTC)
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"thanks for all your advice! i am using 25l fermenters and am putting all the wash in so its pretty close to the top also i am not using a clarifier
not every run i do has white sediment the dist.always appears to be clear
its only after a few days i notice the flakes however carbon always clears it right up thanks agian for all your advice hopefully as i gain more knowledge
i can also be of some assistance to others struggling with there new found hobby"
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#6 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 10:28:07 AM(UTC)
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"Hi John,
Your over charging you boiler.
Try and only fill her to 2/3 to 3/4 full.

Gotta leave a bit of head room."
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#7 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 11:06:06 AM(UTC)
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Hi John,
Your over charging you boiler.
Try and only fill her to 2/3 to 3/4 full.

Gotta leave a bit of head room.


I agree, this could be the issue and cause. Another common cause of this is takeing too many of the tails. This issue usually results when you take your strond distillate and cut it to a lower proof and the salts and oils can combine or segregate as well as the quality of the water you dilute with. City water does vary day to day. Study a bit more on makeing the tail cuts. This is pretty common with too many tails and hard water when doing cuts. Its all a guessing game till you find the actual answer. All those above are your leaders for finding the answer, but more important, solve that issue and you can start makining a much mor clean and pure distillate."
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:34:50 AM(UTC)
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"I'm finding the same issue. White flakes appear shortly after bottling (taken from an oak cask).. when coming from the cask, it's clear. When cutting/bottling, flakes appear, and then what looks like a gel in the bottom of the bottle.

I did charge the still higher than normal (trying to be efficient) but also put it off to boiling a bit hot.

Guess I need to slow down a bit Wink

H"
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:24:28 AM(UTC)
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[COLOR="Blue"]when coming from the cask, it's clear. When cutting/bottling, flakes appear, and then what looks like a gel in the bottom of the bottle. [/COLOR]

Your pulling tails by running with too much heat or you are collecting too far into the run and adding tails into your likker.

Collect in small jars and air over night..Next day give each jar a good sniff and make a mental note of your observations..

Start at the center jar and work your way out to either side.....You should note that the cleanest likker should be in your center jars.....
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:54:37 AM(UTC)
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"I'd assumed to much heat, but never gave thought to the tails. I was trying to squeeze every last bit out. I'm assuming my only real option now is to redistill and clean it out?

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:58:33 PM(UTC)
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"That would be your best bet IMO Henry. Just remember to dilute your boiler charge to 35-40%.

Also, it is not uncommon for newer distillers to try and squeeze every bit of alcohol they can. Especially if they run a small rig. Greed factor we call it....Try and hold yourself to a higher standard. Make good cuts and drink the best likker ever with out fear of a hangover.

Try this:
Get your self three fermenters up and cycling so that at any given point during the week you have something fermenting,,something clearing,,and especially something ready to charge your boiler. Don't have to be big batches either.
By doing this you will find it is easier to resist greed and toss likker that does not make the grade into the rerun jug and only keep the creme of the run..

Good luck Henry"
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:06:18 PM(UTC)
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"**That would be your best bet IMO Henry. Just remember to dilute your boiler charge to 35-40%.**

Never would have even considered this!

Thank you. I'll let you know how I make out!

H"
Offline Rum Rocks  
#13 Posted : Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:30:44 AM(UTC)
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"First time on forum. Been operating by trial and error. Had some pretty good luck. Using an Internal Reflux Still.

Boiler Charge: If I'm reading you right you can take the first Boil of the mash and delute it 35% to 40%. What exactly does that do for you? Confused

I was having the same problem with flakes. The flakes always showed up in the later pours (not sure if thats the right verbage). I do agree that it was probably due to boiling temp being to high."
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