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Offline Capt Dan  
#1 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 8:45:09 AM(UTC)
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"I am about ready to try a maiden run in my EEPS11HC and am still a bit confused about the proper temp and where that temp is.

I think from what I have gathered here, the correct temp I want is around the 175F range at the top of the colum, not the pot itself ??Yes/No.

Also, I have 2 23L buckets of wash on. Both started the same time (16 days ago). They each have 8kg of regular sugar with 134 grams of Licor quick turbo yeast. I put a heat belt on one of these buckets for about 12 hrs on the first day and it seems to have slowed it down, it is still not down to the red mark on my hydrometer, although getting close. The other bucket is done I think, hydrometer sinks almost all of the red. Should I let the first batch continue to work ?? Also I was told to add 2 single packs of clearing agent to each bucket, any comments on this ?

Being my first time should I run each batch separately or combine them and do both together, I have the 15 Gal premium pot ?"
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#2 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 10:08:00 AM(UTC)
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"Hey there Capt Dan,
On your question about the temp, you want the temp at the top of your column to be 175F. The boiler should stay at boiling temps and use your cooling water for your column to control the temp. Just remember to keep the cooling to your condenser wide open.
I would run one batch at a time, especially if it's your first time distilling, you'll find the ins and outs of your still and how it works best in your environment.
Cheers!
TS"
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#3 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 11:05:00 AM(UTC)
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Actually if this the first run then you are probably wanting to strip. If so, then heat does not matter - give it all it will take & strip as fast & hard as possible. It's the reflux run where you need stability. No packing & only the top of the 2-part column. Water only in the condenser. You don't want your kettle more than 2/3s full. If that's both washes, fine, saves time. Tell us what your objective is.
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#4 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 11:34:59 AM(UTC)
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"[COLOR=""Blue""]Actually if this the first run then you are probably wanting to strip. If so, then heat does not matter - give it all it will take & strip as fast & hard as possible. It's the reflux run where you need stability. No packing & only the top of the 2-part column. Water only in the condenser. You don't want your kettle more than 2/3s full. If that's both washes, fine, saves time.[/COLOR]

+1
Just don't overwhelm your product condenser...


You will not be able to control boiler temps. As the abv continues to get depleted your boiler temps will rise.

Some tools:
http://homedistiller.org/forum/...opic.php?f=1&t=10158"
Offline Capt Dan  
#5 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56:06 AM(UTC)
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Ratflinger I would like to make a clear tasteless vodka that I can later flavor. I was thinking of just using the still in reflux mode only. Do I need to make a striping run first???
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#6 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 12:18:38 PM(UTC)
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"[COLOR=""Blue""]Do I need to make a striping run first???
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Well you don't have to,, but lots of hobby stillers feel like a hard fast strip run will more quickly shed the bulk amount of water within your boiler...Stripping first often reduces aggragate time spent stilling.
Also this will bring your abv up and allow your column to do a better job of staying stable.

*Strip as fast as your condenser can cope.
*Dilute low wines charge to 35-40%.
*Run your column in 100% reflux mode to allow for fractions to nicely stack. Adjust heat input/coolant flow accordingly.
*Collect heads nice and easy/slow.
Throw her back into 100% reflux mode to re-stabilize for 15-20 min,,,,or so.
*Collect distillate in 250 to 300 ml increments.
*Air out distillate for a day (or more)
*evaluate collection jars and choose the cleanest likker. Start in the middle and work your way out from either side.

Often folks will strip multiple washes and then do a large spirit run after a goodly amount of low wines have been saved.....This can be tough if you are impatient........and have no drankin stock."
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#7 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2011 4:08:44 PM(UTC)
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Plus you can throw in 1/2 C kosher salt & about 24 tablespoons of soda ash to help tie up the crap that is inevitably there. Can't put this stuff in a wash, unless you like ammonia.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:56:53 AM(UTC)
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Ok I'm confused, are you saying I could use the salt to clear my wash before distilling?
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:25:53 PM(UTC)
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"Hey Capt Dan,
Didn't mean to jump in on the question you asked Ratflinger and LWTCS but to answer your question about the salt, do not add it to your wash or mash. Only add it after your stripping run and before you do your 2nd run.
Cheers!
TS"
Offline Capt Dan  
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:17:20 AM(UTC)
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"No problem tikisteve, I need all the help I can get.

What is the purpose of the salt and soda ash, does it make the end product taste better (not yeasty)."
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#11 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:37:01 AM(UTC)
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"Hey Capt,

It's suppose to help with a lot of off flavors and give you a cleaner product on your sprit run.
Im sure the other distillers in this forum can give you a lot more info on it."
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#12 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 10:36:35 AM(UTC)
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Binds up nasties & keeps them in the solution.
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