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Offline Jones  
#1 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 4:52:21 PM(UTC)
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I have a used 15 gal keg and it needs to be cleaned out what do I use to clean the inside of it out with ?
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:17:10 AM(UTC)
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"As I just got done with this task, I've heard of several things:

  • Do not clean a stainless steel keg with bleach (bad for SS).
  • I understood the Sun Oxygen cleaner was 2 scoops per gallon.
  • PBW (Powdered Brewery Wash) is supposed to be a mix of the Oxyclean stuff and TSP (tri-sodium phosphate) in a 50/50 or 70/30 ratio (can't remember). I used 2 scoops per gallon in a 50/50 mix.
  • A short length of chain (1-2 ft) put in the keg with hot water and swished, shaken, agitated, etc to break loose the big stuff.
  • I finally got the stubborn stuff off the bottom with several trips to the car wash and a high pressure wand.

Hope this helps"
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:09:17 AM(UTC)
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"From John Palmer's website:
""Many brewers have experienced pinholes in stainless-steel vessels that have been filled with a bleach-water solution and left to soak for several days. On a microscopic scale, a scratch or crevice from a gasket can present a localized area where the surface oxide can be destabilized by the chlorine. The chlorides can combine with the oxygen, both in the water and on the steel surface, to form chlorite ions, depleting that local area of protection. If the water is not circulating, the crevice becomes a tiny, highly active site relative to the more passive stainless steel around it and corrodes. The same thing can happen at the liquid surface if the pot is only half full of bleach solution. A dry stable area above, a less stable but very large area below, and the crevice corrosion occurs at the waterline. Usually this type of corrosion will manifest as pitting or pinholes because of the accelerating effect of localization.

A third way chlorides can corrode stainless steel is by concentration. This mode is very similar to the crevice mode described above. By allowing chlorinated water to evaporate and dry on a steel surface, those chlorides become concentrated and destabilize the surface oxides at that site. The next time the surface is wetted, the oxides will quickly dissolve, creating a shallow pit. When the pot is allowed to dry, that pit probably will be one of the last sites to evaporate, causing chloride concentration again. At some point in the cleaning life of the pot, that site will become deep enough for crevice corrosion to take over and the pit to corrode through.

It is best to not use bleach to clean stainless steel and other metal. There are other cleaners available that work just as well without danger of corrosion. The percarbonate-based cleaners like PBW are the best choice for general cleaning.

If you have a particularly tough stain, liked burned malt extract, then you may need something stronger. There are oxalic acid based kitchen cleansers available at the grocery store that are very effective for cleaning stains and deposits from stainless. They also work well for copper. One example is Revere Ware Copper and Stainless Cleanser, another is Bar Keeper's Friend, and another is Kleen King Stainless Steel Cleanser. Use according to the manufacturer's directions and rinse thoroughly with water afterwards.""

http://www.howtobrew.com/appendices/appendixB.html

That being said, I did put bleach in my keg before I located this info. However, I only left it in the keg for 15 minutes or so."
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:02:16 AM(UTC)
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For really built up gunk as mentioned a chain or even pea gravel, ball bearings, marbles etc. and get the kids or grand kids to roll it around the yard. Doncha just love the hillbilly ways.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:20:07 AM(UTC)
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"Just cleaned my keg with the sun Oxyclean rinse good and then rinse good with
bleach water and it looks good to me."
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