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Offline treekiwi  
#1 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2011 9:41:36 AM(UTC)
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"Howdy,
New to this forum and to distilling in general.
Just did a batch of Quince wine and it is coming out of the pot still with a strong smell of sulphur dioxide. I used 50 ppm sodium metabisulphite when brewing it (equivalent of 1 campden tablet per gallon).
Was this a huge mistake?
Cheers,"
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#2 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2011 12:39:41 PM(UTC)
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I've never been around where any quince grows but in general some taste will come out with your distillate when you pot still. That's where you get your different flavors of whiskey and rum, etc. The sulphide smell can probably be eliminated by putting a couple of rolls of copper mesh in your column. That or dilute your first run to about 40% and run it again. That should almost make it a neutral. I wouldn't us any sodium metabisulphite or campden when you are going to distill it. Check out some wash recipes and give some of the most popular ones that fit your taste a try.
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#3 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2011 2:24:40 PM(UTC)
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I've never been around where any quince grows but in general some taste will come out with your distillate when you pot still. That's where you get your different flavors of whiskey and rum, etc. The sulphide smell can probably be eliminated by putting a couple of rolls of copper mesh in your column. That or dilute your first run to about 40% and run it again. That should almost make it a neutral. I wouldn't us any sodium metabisulphite or campden when you are going to distill it. Check out some wash recipes and give some of the most popular ones that fit your taste a try.

Thanks for the help, I also used the Montrachet yeast which apparently is not the best for distilling purposes.
I think in future, I need to forget everything I know about winemaking and approach it differently......a little oxidation due to lack of sulphite, probbaly isn't going to matter.
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#4 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2011 6:37:29 PM(UTC)
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I use the sulphides when making wine but never in a wash.

Try some distillers yeast or E1118, it's alcohol tolerant up to 22%.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:46:55 AM(UTC)
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"You don't have to be as mindful about off flavors in your beer/washes for distilling.....

In fact lots of distillers often try and promote a bit of souring....specially the mob that makes rum.....
Also, a buggered up wine batch can often render the most delightful brandy."
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#6 Posted : Monday, March 05, 2012 8:55:25 PM(UTC)
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i did one with classic turbo just a straight sugar wash and it had the sulfer smell too but i drinkin it now i was wondering if it had anything to do with yeast burning in bottom of the boiler cause i fermented in the boiler as well
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 12:48:27 AM(UTC)
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Yeah you will definitely have some,,,,,,,"adjunct" with that method.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 8:19:13 PM(UTC)
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what is "adjunct" mean in this situation
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:15:22 AM(UTC)
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what is ""adjunct"" mean in this situation


Flavors, smell"
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:50:32 AM(UTC)
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ok figured just diddnt know if there was more to it
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#11 Posted : Saturday, March 10, 2012 9:25:24 PM(UTC)
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i am a turd in a punch bowl but thats me i been told by 3 old southern boys that mines really great best they had in 15-20 years i think they strech the truth but i believe its great once it jars for a week much better
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#12 Posted : Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:40:13 PM(UTC)
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and thats 1st run they nicknamed me popcorn lol i took that as a super high honor and i had burnt yeast in bottom
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#13 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:29:29 PM(UTC)
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RollEyes

Aside from all of the 'turds' floating around in this topic. BigGrin


I never use Turbo yeast. It's some really nasty stuff, and is only good for general, run of the meal wino or Swish drink.

Also, no need for Campden Tabs in your mash! That's for wine drinkers who are going to be drinking their drink " in the raw", or uncooked.

Try some EC1118. It's some good stuff, but I will warn you ..... it leaves a strong yeasty smell in the fermenter and in your wash. If you mix corn and ec1118 you will have the entire place smelling like cornbread before too long. It's some strong stuff, but not for the faint of heart. :)
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#14 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:39:08 PM(UTC)
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well my stuff came out great so turbo is good
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#15 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:51:13 PM(UTC)
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well my stuff came out great so turbo is good


I'll forgive you because you don't know any better. BigGrin

Do your research and you will find that the mass majority of distillers agree with me. Especially those of us who are 'Purists' and only want the best product.

One of the main reasons turbo yeast is junk is because of the large amounts of hydrogen sulfide that is produced while it's working. If you think that sulfite smell is bad now ... wait to see what it smells like with turbo.

Brewshops only sell turbo because they deal a lot with people that don't know any better, and the price is 3x as much as a packet of good yeast.

Another thing... not to step on any toes, but Popcorn Sutton would roll over in his grave knowing someone made a swish and likened it to his 'White Whiskey'.

Come down this way some time. I'll show you what it's supposed to taste like. Wink"
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#16 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:53:40 PM(UTC)
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i only done 1 run with the turbo and everyone loves it is all im saying but im goin with ec next time cause of price anyway
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#17 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:07:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mr. x Go to Quoted Post
i only done 1 run with the turbo and everyone loves it is all im saying but im goin with ec next time cause of price anyway


Sounds good!


I would even go a step further and say that if you are using corn as a base that you could increase your output further by using AG (Gluco Amylase) and a premium yeast strain like White Labs (WLP028) Edinburgh Scottish Ale yeast. Now that's some stuff to write home about. Some of the best small batch drinks have come from that yeast.

It may just be a rumor, and forgive me if it is, but I hear tell that a very prominent Kentucky Distillery uses that very yeast for their premium bourbons. It works well with rye malts.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:01:08 PM(UTC)
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i dont care much as long as i get a buzz
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