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Offline kyshine101  
#1 Posted : Sunday, March 25, 2012 4:18:03 AM(UTC)
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"I am in the very beginning stage of building my still.
I am trying to get everything free or as cheep as possible, just because I wanted to build as much of still out of what ever I could find rather than buying everything :) after all, this is a project for me for fun and hobby.

I should note that I want a safe and fruitful product to enjoy.

Any sound advice on sizes and quantities are very welcomed. I prefer to measure twice and cut once.

Just FYI, I am looking to produce a good drinking shine with as much tradition as possible.

The parts that i currentley have are........
used stock 15.5 keg.
3 pieces of 2.5"" copper pipe totaling 40"" if they are put together.
About 30' of new 3/8"" soft copper tubing.
16 gallon stock pot.
15 gallon food grade plastic barrels.
Several small pots and pans ( 3qt to 6 qt) for the thumper and coil.
small water pump (like a back yard pond pump).
Online access and hardware stores for fittings and such.
A guy that welds stainless steel for all my welding needs.
One new turkey fryer with burner.

At this point I am only concentrating on the still.

The questions are....
Should I use a cap instead of a column? Or is there any real difference between a cap and a column?
And if I use a cap or column, what is the best size for a 15 gallon boiler?

For some reason I want to use a cap.
My first thought was a cap would hold and store more vapor than a column and allow the heaver vapors to collect and fall back into the boiler only allowing the lighter vapor to pass to the thumper producing a taster product.
I was going to use a short piece of pipe (2.5" X 12"") to connect the cap to the boiler.
The cap would be the size of 6 or 8 quart pot or pan with a (what ever size that is needed) 1"" pipe going to the thumper and a 1/2"" pipe coming out of the thumper reducing down to the 3.8 copper coil.

I guess it sounds crazy but for some reason, all of the old timers used a cap when they could have just as Easley used a column (something like a stove pipe). I just do not know why and I can only assume it has something to do with flavor since most of the caps are copper and hand made.

once again, any sould advice for a tried and true design would be great.
there are plenty of designs with a column but i have not found any with a cap."
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#2 Posted : Sunday, March 25, 2012 11:37:44 AM(UTC)
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Well not sure I would know a cap if it bit me in the coola. If that a big old bulbous looking thing you see in the old pics? Now you sure the copper is 2.5"? If so that might be a problem on trying to attach it to the keg..I see the 2 and 3 inch attachment fittings but not a 2.5 size. The large diameter copper is real expensive. Might be smarter to sell the copper and buy a storebought still. Have you put the pencil to it?
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#3 Posted : Sunday, March 25, 2012 2:07:21 PM(UTC)
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"yes, a cap is the large collector on top of the boiler/pot.
yes, i have 2 1/2"" copper. however i can also get a 2 1/2"" ss threaded nipples from mcmaster carr, part number 9157K601 and have it welded to the top of the boiler/pot.
i decided that the cap can be made from a ss stock pot. i only have to install the proper nipples to attach the piping.

i understand that having a cap instead of just a large stright pipe may not be an advantage. if i find that there would be no advantage then i would go with the column. for some twisted reason i am thinking that i will retain more flavor using a cap."
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#4 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 1:15:59 AM(UTC)
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From reading your post, it sounds like you want a pot still. The only help I could offer is this web page on pot still design: http://homedistiller.org/equip/designs/make_pot
Offline heeler  
#5 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 8:54:03 AM(UTC)
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"kyshine, you will find that neither produces better hooch than the other. It will be easier to clean your unit with the cap as it will have a 8 inch hole in the top. But it will be easier to attatch the tower directly to the keg.
With a cap you will have to have threaded studs welded on to hold down the cap and then you use wing nuts to fasten down the cap. Then fabricate a way to stand the tower in the cap but it is doable just not real stable."
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#6 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 10:00:13 AM(UTC)
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Will vote with Heeler on this one. I do not like the sound of stills when folks start mentioning stock pots and such things. Believe I would go for the tower and if you dont want any reflux action just cut back on the packing or leave it plumb out since your gizmo is going to be made from copper. If you decide to do some refluxing load up the tower and go to town. I enjoy staying flexible:)
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2012 1:42:34 PM(UTC)
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"thanks for the replys, i just got off work, we are working a lot of doubles. I guess that is a good thing now days with so many people who are looking for work.
anyway, thanks again."
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