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Offline cradyl  
#1 Posted : Monday, June 04, 2012 11:29:46 PM(UTC)
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"hello everyone.i have a 15 gallon still.i'm gonna do a stripping run my first run.does anyone know roughly about how much i will be collecting out of that 15 gallons of wash on my stripping run?

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2012 12:20:18 AM(UTC)
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"We would need to know the alcohol content of your wash before we can calculate the end result.

If your wash was 10% alcohol and you ran 15 gal than the easy math would say you could expect somewhere around 1.5 gal, if you ran in reflux mode.

It's harder to calculate the final product amount running a pot still because the alcohol content will very up or down leaving you with a volume of water and alcohol left over from the initial wash.

A guess would be 30 to 40% less final product than the wash. 15 * 60% = 9gal you get the idea."
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2012 12:58:02 AM(UTC)
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For a 15 gallon capacity, you should only fill it to about 3/4 full.

From HomeDistiller.Org: http://ho...distill/dtw/fill

When filling the boiler, make sure you leave enough headspace above the liquid, so that if it foams up a bit, that the foam won't get pushed up the column. Typically it should only be around 3/4 full.

Some washes may tend to foam up a bit & get pushed out through the column & condenser, contaminating the clean spirit. This sometimes means that for some washes you may have to leave your boiler 1/3 to 1/2 empty at times, in order to accomodate that foaming. Hogan writes about how to deal with this
... someone was describing the use of malt extract for making whiskey and commenting that it foamed a lot in the distiller. The extract will contain a lot of proteins and when boiled it will foam a good bit. You need to let it foam as much as possible (without boiling over, of course). If you have a big pot, that helps. But you can remove the pot from heat or turn it down (if a gas heat source) let it sttle a bit and fire it back up. You are looking to achieve something called hot break. The foam will soon stop rising. This process coagulates the protiens so that they are larger and will settle out, producing a clearer liquid.

Also, the website has a calculator to figure out how much liquid should be left in the boiler after distilling.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2012 1:01:12 AM(UTC)
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"A decent rule of thumb would be that you will collect a 1/3'd

Mileage may vary depending on your heat input and how good your condenser can cope with potential input."
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2012 1:43:57 AM(UTC)
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Some washes may tend to foam up a bit & get pushed out through the column & condenser.


Bigwheel, recommends using a bit of copper mesh in the column to remove the sulfates or sulfur something like that, in a Stainless steel pot still and the use of copper packing in a reflux still also provides the reflux action. Add some of that copper stuff to the pot still to help her from griping and burping some of that stuff you"re trying to get rid of."
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:05:05 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: more than I can drink Go to Quoted Post
Bigwheel recommends using a bit of copper mesh in the column to remove the sulfates or sulfur something like that, in a Stainless steel pot still and the use of copper packing in a reflux still also provides the reflux action. Add some of that copper stuff to the pot still to help her from griping and burping some of that stuff you"re trying to get rid of.


Removing sufates with copper is different from having the boiler puke due to proteins foaming up in the wash.

Any still should have copper in the vapor path somewhere to deal with the sulfates. My still has ~25 feet of copper tubing. BigGrin

But if you fermented with anything that left proteins in the wash, you may have to deal with the foaming/puking issue. Leaving the boiler 1/4 empty is one way to deal with that. Achieving the hot break is another.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:45:14 AM(UTC)
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Let us not forget our friend the mysterious little chain.


From HomeDistiller.Org: http://homedistiller.org/distill/dtw/chips

Using Boiling Chips when Distilling
If you're heating your still over an external heat source, then you should have a couple of boiling chips inside it to help break the boil. These are any rough-surfaced, inert object - like bits of broken pottery (unglazed so as to avoid lead based glazes), broken glass, or even a couple of marbles.

The rough surface acts as a site where the bubbles can start to form easier. If your pot is nice and smooth on the inside, then its difficult for the bubbles to form, and you can end up super-heating the liquid. When it does boil, it might be quite violent, and give surges of vapour up the column, ruining that nice equilibrium you're trying to create. Boiling chips, although making the job a little noisier (rattle like hell!), do help give a smoother simmer.

Note that they are used for a still with an external heat source. If you have an internal heating element, the chain is not needed in the boiler.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2012 11:05:15 AM(UTC)
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I had no idea what that chain was for, thanks muadib2001
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2012 11:34:30 AM(UTC)
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A decent rule of thumb would be that you will collect a 1/3'd

Mileage may vary depending on your heat input and how good your condenser can cope with potential input.


I have only run my pot still 4 times and the end quantity was 33% of the wine. Now after reading around here I thought I was doing it wrong. The alcohol content was very high at 77% 155 proof. The flavor also was stripped away. I ran a drip at the condenser; with everything I read on the forum, I understand I should have had a pencil lead size flow from the condenser. This had my thinking that the faster run would lower the proofs and leave more flavor in the collection and more finial product.

Can someone give me some quick pointers here or share their experience."
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 05, 2012 12:20:58 PM(UTC)
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Where in the book (page) does it talk about the ss chain?
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:59:59 AM(UTC)
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