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"I have a question about a mash i am creating. I want to try to distill alcohol from mesquite bean meal. It is a very sweat bean that has plenty of sugar but it also has a lot of fiber. If you want to see the nutrition information the link is http://nuts.com/cookingbaking/p...ml?utm_source=googlebaseThe problem I am trying to understand is what do you do with all the fiber in the mesquite bean. The type of fiber in it is called galactomannin gum and is basically a polysaccharide. Does it get broken down by the yeast or does nothing happen at all and only the already naturally occurring sugar in the mesquite gets broken down by the yeast in alcohol? If the fiber can be broken down into alcohol is their and enzyme i can purchase? My last question is if the mesquite already has the naturally occurring sugar should i use Gluco-Amylase Enzyme to break down the sugar further or does th yeast already take care of this."
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Polysaccharides must be broken down by enzymes to useable yeast forms. Amylase will only break down starch which is generally a poly sucrose/glucose. You'd need some more and different enzymes like "Beano".....however, I think you'd need quite a bit if the bulk of your sugar is coming from the beans. Health food stores also sell enzyme mixes in tablets that have more and different ones than Beano, but they are pretty darned spendy around $25-30 for a bottle of 100 ( I sprung and won't do it again). Not sure but I think your "fiber may be cellulose, in which case you'd need cellulase enzyme
You also have a timing problem, meaning you need enuff enzymes to break it down before your wash gets infected....too little ENZ increases breakdown time which increases potential infection
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"With regards to the need for extra enzyme from beano or not, you should be fine. Glucoamylase will break down any starch that is in the mesquite, but according to the nutritional data the two forms of carbs in there are 1. sugar and 2. fiber. If both of these add up to the total carbs listed (5+7 =12g), then there is no starch to be found... more or less. :)
Sugar as we all know is very fermentable
The fiber is more likely a cellulose, or hemicellulose. Breaking that down gets into the whole fuel alcohol from biomass. Which means it will be a royal pain in the behind to convert the cellulose to starch, and the starch to sugar. I wont get into the details, suffice to say, there is a reason why biomass fuel is still in the experimental and testing stages...
You should be good with just trying to ferment it raw, and enjoy the easy sugars. Or look into a cellulase enzyme..."
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Wow..who would have ever thunk that lowly mesquite beans could make such a triumphal re-entry into the world market place? Wished I hadnt have smoked so many of them things. I coulda been a millionaire selling them to yups most likely.
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Hey Sir..just wanted to give you a hearty welcome. We needed an enzyme guru guy/guette on here real bad. Thanks for showing up. These hard heads do not listen to reason too much. Best of fortunes. I think Beano in the wash is a rip off. Am I right as usual?  Thanks. Originally Posted by: SpecialtyEnzymes  With regards to the need for extra enzyme from beano or not, you should be fine. Glucoamylase will break down any starch that is in the mesquite, but according to the nutritional data the two forms of carbs in there are 1. sugar and 2. fiber. If both of these add up to the total carbs listed (5+7 =12g), then there is no starch to be found... more or less. :)
Sugar as we all know is very fermentable
The fiber is more likely a cellulose, or hemicellulose. Breaking that down gets into the whole fuel alcohol from biomass. Which means it will be a royal pain in the behind to convert the cellulose to starch, and the starch to sugar. I wont get into the details, suffice to say, there is a reason why biomass fuel is still in the experimental and testing stages...
You should be good with just trying to ferment it raw, and enjoy the easy sugars. Or look into a cellulase enzyme...
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"Hey Big wheel, thanks for the hearty hello, much appreciated.
Beano has been used by many people to boost the gravity of beers or future distillates, in most cases that I have read, it is not the best choice. But I am a bit spoiled, as you can tell by the name.
I pass judgement neither one way or the other, I can only try to help with the knowledge I have, as best I can.
I wouldn't use beano though... X)
Best of luck on the Mesquite mash, looking forward to hearing how it works."
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