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Offline dasorge  
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 26, 2012 7:08:27 AM(UTC)
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If one wanted to substitue brown cain sugar for molasses, how much brown sugar would one need to be the equivalent of 1 gal of molasses?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:04:42 AM(UTC)
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See http://homedistiller.org/sugar/wash-sugar/rum2 for some recipies. See "PK writes ..." just a little way from the top of the page.

Since brown sugar contains mostly sugar and up to 6.5% molasses (for dark brown sugar), and one gallon of molasses is only about half fermentable (and weighs 12 lbs), I would think that 1 gallon molasses is equal to ~6 lbs of dark brown sugar.

I got the values above from Wikipedia and Google. And everything on the Internet has got to be correct, right? BigGrin

I would just put the wash together and watch the OG and make certain it doesn't go much over 1.080.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:13:26 AM(UTC)
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Think about panela too.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:21:00 AM(UTC)
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"G'day mate...lol.

Originally Posted by: LWTCS Go to Quoted Post
Think about panela too.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:03:47 PM(UTC)
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"iF THE RECIPE CALLS FOR 1 GALLON OF MOLASSES oops caps to 5 gallons of water then you would use 6 pounds of sugar to 5 gallons. Or something like that

Here is one recipe i have in the waiting room

1 gallon feed grade black strap molasses
4 gallons water
7 pounds sugar
Distillers yeast
Yeast nutrient


So i guess adding 7 pounds of dark browm sugar to this recipe would work.

That brown sugar comparison is an eye opener to me."
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#6 Posted : Thursday, July 26, 2012 11:08:33 PM(UTC)
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"I made some changes in my future rum recipe.

Do they sound like they might work????

1 gallon feed grade black strap molasses
4 gallons water
7 pounds sugar
Distillers yeast
Yeast nutrient
((( substitute 7 pounds of dark brown sugar and about 2 pounds of white sugar
leave out the 1 gallon of molasses AND the original 7 pounds of white sugar(((just added this correction ))))"
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#7 Posted : Friday, July 27, 2012 4:35:16 AM(UTC)
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Thanks, I'll give it a shot. Black strap molasses is hard to come by around these parts!
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#8 Posted : Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:12:43 AM(UTC)
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Scotty -- Is 7 lbs of brown sugar and 2 lbs of white sugar equivilant to 1 gal of molasses? In substituting the brown and white for the molasses, do you still need to add the 7 lbs of white sugar?
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#9 Posted : Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:00:01 AM(UTC)
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Scotty -- Is 7 lbs of brown sugar and 2 lbs of white sugar equivilant to 1 gal of molasses? In substituting the brown and white for the molasses, do you still need to add the 7 lbs of white sugar?


It was my guess based on information previously given by maudib 2001.

His info seems close enough- Its not rocket fuel. My best guess would be to try but do not add the 7 pounds of white sugar.

The brown sugar + the 2 pounds of white sugar seem to equal the gallon of molasses and the 7 pounds of white in the original recipe.

Please let us know. I have been planning a trip to a horse feed store for some molasses and think i would do better with the brown sugar.

I'm just guessing but definitely do not add the 7 pounds of white sugar.


I hope i have been some help/"
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#10 Posted : Sunday, July 29, 2012 2:25:58 AM(UTC)
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okie dokie i'll give it a try and let you know how it turns out.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:10:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: scotty Go to Quoted Post
His info seems close enough- Its not rocket fuel.


I think you meant "rocket science". :)

What we're making is rocket fuel. BigGrin
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:49:57 PM(UTC)
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"Here is my $.02...it works for me.

1 gallon Molasses
5 pounds sugar
Dunder & Water to 6 gallon fill
Gert Strand Rum Turbo

Pitch yeast at 80 degrees (added O2 or lots of sloshin' about) and this will begin fermenting within an hour or so and go for 5 to 7 days.

I do a single pot run with one or two copper coils in my BH High Capacity in pot mode...4 hours from flame on until cleaned up, 3.5 liters of drinkable.

Dilute to 65% ABV and spice with 1/2 stick cinnamon, a few tablespoons of Molasses, a few raisins and a few tablespoons of Medium Toasted oak chips for a few weeks...taste after the first 5 days and keep on flavorings (I remove cinnamon first) until suited to your palate, then dilute to desired drinking power!

If you try this, let me know how it worked for you."
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, August 01, 2012 4:23:29 AM(UTC)
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"This is fancy Organic Molasses purchased from a baker who buys pallets of 5 gallon jugs. I get them for $40 per 5 gallons, and that is OK with me. I also get 50 pound of pure cane sugar for $20, so the big expense is the $3.50 turbo yeast or about $13.50 for 3.5 liters collected and diluted to about 6 liters. (there is also about a $2 expense for flavorings), but this is fun for me and not something I am doing to save pennies in the piggy bank...also would rather drink less of a high quality product than more of a low quality one.

That said, I am still learning the processes and hoping the nice ingredients make up for some of my humanity mistakes along the way...

As for the ABV, I run the BH HC PSII in Pot Mode (1 column) with 1 copper roll and achieve the following (after a fast and loose stripping run):

500 ml collection cuts:

1. FORES 250 ml (thrown out)
2. 84%
3. 83%
4. 82%
5. 81%
6. 80%
7. 79%
8. 77%
9. 75% at 164 degrees F (no temps recorded on previous cuts)
10. 70% at 170 degrees
11. 64% at 172 degrees
12. 55% at 175 degrees
13. 39% at 180 degrees

I generally mix jars 4 to 10, recycle the dunder for the next run, and save heads and tails to throw into following runs again...this is what I have developed since starting in June of this year, so I am no expert, so words of wisdom/debate are always welcome, this is a nice drop though!"
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, August 01, 2012 1:07:04 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Orange Sunshine Go to Quoted Post
As for the ABV, I run the BH HC PSII in Pot Mode (1 column) with 1 copper roll and achieve the following (after a fast and loose stripping run)


BW, I think he did a stripping run ("after a fast and loose..."), so the ABV's are for a second run, not a single run.

Am I wrong?
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, August 01, 2012 1:23:49 PM(UTC)
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"Muadib, you are correct.

If anyone has comments or criticism, I am all ears...

This was my first recipe derived from others I read about...and my somewhat easily available ingredients. I am having fun...fermentation is truly magical and I really work hard on that side of the still..."
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