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Offline fatboylo  
#61 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 6:03:37 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bigwheel Go to Quoted Post
Sure is a possibility on the lack of air. Cant immediately think of any personal batches which was asphyxiated to death from that particular ailment..but sure could have stunted unbeknownst. Used to not pay much mind to it other than to try to splash around in the liquid as much as possible..which that one prob a hold over from the old beer/wine days..but since hanging out on here and getting slightly edumacated and taking advice from Smart Fellers..I have now become a dedicated aerator. I use the fish bubbler more than the fish ever used it..lol. I think the fine wide spray pattern from the garden hose nozzle while topping it off helps too as do several spankings with the paint stirring apparatus for the cordless drill. That sure beats swiping Mama's hand mixer for the few who maybe aint tried it. Person whup that around starting on bottom and winding up with a whirlpool on top of the liquid bound to give it an extra breath or two. The distillers yeast do not seem to stay crazy active that long..so may be a factor there. After about two days it seems to to quit pharting and sputtering even with plenty of air. Betcha the young man come out with a good ferment. Whutcha think? I prob be willing to bet a big swaller of hooch..lol.


roflmao.....Yeper, I'm betting your right!!!!!! I bet he ends up with some right fine shine.....
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#62 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 9:03:50 AM(UTC)
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Yeah thats the ticket yeah. Confident he get enough hooch to wet the whistle..lol. If it dont make a volume to suit..do it different next time. That should work. I got two five/six gallon models (swear I am going to decide how much them buckets actually hold one of these days) of cm and rye which should be ready to run as soon as the current snake bite meds is exhausted. Cant wait to see if it tastes like a Reuben Sandwich. Last time it got stabbed a few days back think it said 1.003 or thereabouts on the villainous wash checker gauge. Should be a welcome relief in the world of crappy ferments. Take care Sir. Hope it shaping up to be a great weekend for you and yours. PS Edit: Just stuck it and as best as I could see it say 1.002 on the checker. Tasted not real sweet..but mighty yummy flavored and odored. Guessing it slowed down a bit but a person could hang meat in the man cave. Mama gonna severely whup my head when the giant electric bill hits. I best enter a contest or something to get some money...hmmm. I done tole yall next year I am going to be like a squirrel and horde the nuts up over the cold weather where a person do not have to keep that crap cool in the hot summer. I am getting riled up just thinking about it. I am looking for the slide rule as we speak to try and figger out how many extra runs I will need to make a week..month..etc. to plan on drinking all summer without having to birth a wash. Tell me what you'uns think about this deal. Thanks.

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roflmao.....Yeper, I'm betting your right!!!!!! I bet he ends up with some right fine shine.....
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#63 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 4:07:59 PM(UTC)
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"Howdy Boys,

Well, Im by no means an expert, but I will tell you what I did & it seemed to work alright --- even though it was my first whack at it. I'm using a 30 liter fermenting vessel.

*Add 10 liters of HOT water to vessel.
*Add 13.25 LBS of table sugar.
*Stir the crap out it till you have sweet, thick syrupy goo and all the suger is completely dissolved.
*Add 15 more liters of cold water. Some here say you should spray it in to promote oxygen but I was not able to do so --- I have to use bottled cause my well water is too minerally)
*I add the fancy turbo yeast and stir the crap out of it again.
*Slap the ferment lock on and away you go. Its bubblicious time for 2 or 3 days.

Even though I ended up using a clearing agent, it still took 2 full weeks to settle. I found out from the friendly folks here that ""clear"" is not reffering to the color, but rather that all the dead yeasties have settled to the bottom. My sugar wash never got clear --- it was always kind of yellowish. I also learned not to peek so much --- just give it the full 2 weeks & let her be. I kept mine in a 72 degree environment.

My final product came out at 90% --- not too bad for a first run. I cut it to 45 & ran it through carbon and its quite tasty. I have done a few side by side taste tests compared to popular brands of vodka and it holds up well. Even has a slightly sweet taste to it. Someone here mentioned my original ""hound dog"" smell (pre filtring) was because I kept to much of the tails. Makes sense from what I read, but the funny thing is ALL of it had the hound dog smell until I filtered it. I dont think I would know when to quit collectin' anyhow. Yes, I suppose I was being greedy....Blushing

Hope that helps a little --- until next time... Lachiam! Salute! Cheers!"
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#64 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 9:54:44 PM(UTC)
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Your point about the improvement after carbon filtering eliminates the greedy thing. What method did you use?
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#65 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:46:36 AM(UTC)
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Great news on that. Good job.

Originally Posted by: Lewis Go to Quoted Post
Howdy Boys,

Well, Im by no means an expert, but I will tell you what I did & it seemed to work alright --- even though it was my first whack at it. I'm using a 30 liter fermenting vessel.

*Add 10 liters of HOT water to vessel.
*Add 13.25 LBS of table sugar.
*Stir the crap out it till you have sweet, thick syrupy goo and all the suger is completely dissolved.
*Add 15 more liters of cold water. Some here say you should spray it in to promote oxygen but I was not able to do so --- I have to use bottled cause my well water is too minerally)
*I add the fancy turbo yeast and stir the crap out of it again.
*Slap the ferment lock on and away you go. Its bubblicious time for 2 or 3 days.

Even though I ended up using a clearing agent, it still took 2 full weeks to settle. I found out from the friendly folks here that "clear" is not reffering to the color, but rather that all the dead yeasties have settled to the bottom. My sugar wash never got clear --- it was always kind of yellowish. I also learned not to peek so much --- just give it the full 2 weeks & let her be. I kept mine in a 72 degree environment.

My final product came out at 90% --- not too bad for a first run. I cut it to 45 & ran it through carbon and its quite tasty. I have done a few side by side taste tests compared to popular brands of vodka and it holds up well. Even has a slightly sweet taste to it. Someone here mentioned my original "hound dog" smell (pre filtring) was because I kept to much of the tails. Makes sense from what I read, but the funny thing is ALL of it had the hound dog smell until I filtered it. I dont think I would know when to quit collectin' anyhow. Yes, I suppose I was being greedy....Blushing

Hope that helps a little --- until next time... Lachiam! Salute! Cheers!
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#66 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:48:59 AM(UTC)
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Lewis, just collect everything in smaller jugs not one or two big ones throughout the run and then let it air out for 24 hours before you mix em all together. That will make a real difference when you go to sniffin those jars for combining them to cut with water. The way you make cuts is with your nose really, now once you've made some runs with that unit you'll learn right where each --- cut -- starts. Keep going and it'll just sorta come to you. And hey if the carbon works for ya then by all means just do it.
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#67 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:54:46 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bigwheel Go to Quoted Post
Yeah thats the ticket yeah. Confident he get enough hooch to wet the whistle..lol. If it dont make a volume to suit..do it different next time. That should work. I got two five/six gallon models (swear I am going to decide how much them buckets actually hold one of these days) of cm and rye which should be ready to run as soon as the current snake bite meds is exhausted. Cant wait to see if it tastes like a Reuben Sandwich. Last time it got stabbed a few days back think it said 1.003 or thereabouts on the villainous wash checker gauge. Should be a welcome relief in the world of crappy ferments. Take care Sir. Hope it shaping up to be a great weekend for you and yours. PS Edit: Just stuck it and as best as I could see it say 1.002 on the checker. Tasted not real sweet..but mighty yummy flavored and odored. Guessing it slowed down a bit but a person could hang meat in the man cave. Mama gonna severely whup my head when the giant electric bill hits. I best enter a contest or something to get some money...hmmm. I done tole yall next year I am going to be like a squirrel and horde the nuts up over the cold weather where a person do not have to keep that crap cool in the hot summer. I am getting riled up just thinking about it. I am looking for the slide rule as we speak to try and figger out how many extra runs I will need to make a week..month..etc. to plan on drinking all summer without having to birth a wash. Tell me what you'uns think about this deal. Thanks.[/


Yep Lewis sounds like you on the train....Good job.....Big I'm thinking 1.double knot 2 I running!!!Thats gonna be some right tastey hooch!!Of course as long as you didn't start at 1. double knot 3! lmao Took a qt over to my bro in laws last night, set around the grill and sipped away. He got up this morn and said, ""Man I think I'm still drunk"", I said hahahahahahahahahahahahah welcome to the club, when do you wanna build one? roflmao Went and got the sue plies to start another 20 gal and bought some stuff called Yeast Enigizer!!!!! gonna throw about 7 tbsp of that stuff in ther and see what happens.......I'll keep you posted. That part about the boat just cracked my ass up!!!!!!!!! Thanks Friend!"
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#68 Posted : Saturday, August 18, 2012 11:35:08 AM(UTC)
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Pleasure all on my end Sir. If I did not have yall to bull around with think this retirement thing could drive a person crazy. Way too much quality time around singular wimmen folks seems like. Correct me if I'm wrong..lol. If this crappy ferment which I am drinking..as we speak..taste any mo betta not sure a person could stand it. Best hooch I ever made and it was showing 1.006 on the Richter Scale when it got flushed down or maybe up the tubes. If just dont seem rational. I am still looking for a part time gig as a beer tender for the Mafia. Let me know if anybody got some contacts. Maybe go for a John Kerry male gigolo thing if they have cash. Dont like for Obamie's IRS to make me give all my funds to the UAW..deserving members of the minority co-moonity etc. Now I hear a rumor they kills the bar tenders each six months whether they need it or not..just to be on the safe side in case one of the Dons got to slopping in his Rum and spilled the beans. Kindly Let me know. Thanks.
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#69 Posted : Sunday, August 19, 2012 6:43:47 AM(UTC)
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lmao.....Mafis done been in fill trated, forget the name of the ole boy but he was a guv'ment boy......think I'd stay away from there!!!!!!OhMyGod OOPS! forgot to mention, my new ferment took off like a screaming ape!!!!!!!Wink
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#70 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 3:41:55 PM(UTC)
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"You guys are cracking me up tonight.....

About the activated carbon: I went by the book really --- and it's kind of a hassle. BUT it made all the difference for me. I really thought I screwed the pooch until I filtered it. It made that much of a difference. First off I cut the 90% to 45% BEFORE I filtered. Next, I poured the carbon into a saucepan & filled it with twice as much water & stirred it up real good. Pour off the murkey water & repeat the process 4 times. Cover it with hot water 1 more time & let it sit over night. Next day pour it off refill it & pour it off 1 more time. (told you it was a hassle) I used the basic PVC filter kit from Brewhaus --- about 4' of PVC with a large funnel at the top. (I leak proofed the unit with emergency tape) Attach 3 filters to the bottom of the contraption & pour in your pre-wetted carbon. Tamp the tube down to settle the carbon. First, pour in about 4 liters of water as a final carbon flush. As soon as the funnel is clear of water, start pouring in your cut hooch. Now you sit & wait & taste. It will be very apparent when the last of the water drips out & the goods start to flow --- that oviously is when you start collectin'. This was an incredibly abreviated version of what you can get of the net or down load off the Brewhause website but that's basically it. You can even re-use the carbon more than once by baking it essentialy --- I'm going to try that too. Hope that helps.....it really helped me. Have a good night Fellers. Time for a glass of the goods."
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#71 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 3:55:56 PM(UTC)
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Big you ain't shit'en me you running......we be injuns of a dif breed..rightWink....u. got too quite huh???????? Chiller with Ice take a sip and say." Fats told me so"!!!!!!!!!!! hahhahahahhahah
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#72 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 4:46:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Lewis Go to Quoted Post
You guys are cracking me up tonight.....

About the activated carbon: I went by the book really --- and it's kind of a hassle. BUT it made all the difference for me. I really thought I screwed the pooch until I filtered it. It made that much of a difference. First off I cut the 90% to 45% BEFORE I filtered. Next, I poured the carbon into a saucepan & filled it with twice as much water & stirred it up real good. Pour off the murkey water & repeat the process 4 times. Cover it with hot water 1 more time & let it sit over night. Next day pour it off refill it & pour it off 1 more time. (told you it was a hassle) I used the basic PVC filter kit from Brewhaus --- about 4' of PVC with a large funnel at the top. (I leak proofed the unit with emergency tape) Attach 3 filters to the bottom of the contraption & pour in your pre-wetted carbon. Tamp the tube down to settle the carbon. First, pour in about 4 liters of water as a final carbon flush. As soon as the funnel is clear of water, start pouring in your cut hooch. Now you sit & wait & taste. It will be very apparent when the last of the water drips out & the goods start to flow --- that oviously is when you start collectin'. This was an incredibly abreviated version of what you can get of the net or down load off the Brewhause website but that's basically it. You can even re-use the carbon more than once by baking it essentialy --- I'm going to try that too. Hope that helps.....it really helped me. Have a good night Fellers. Time for a glass of the goods.


Yippie -Ki-a......don't know bout helping, but if it works fer u, anotheter Yippie-ki-a.....Wink Sound lik a lotta work to me.......but what the hell do I know?.....Confused Heres the thing with this hobby.....if you think you gotta good deal......chances are you did......or in lite....... agood deal is a state of mind........... PS: ship me some of that good hooch. and I willl let everyone know if you gota good deal!!!!!!!! lmao happy hoching!!!!!!!!!! I tried to pull a Scotty ther and get'hem to give mesome of that 130 ther didn't I???????Cool
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#73 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:13:40 AM(UTC)
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Lewis, a little tidbit on the carbon filter, you dont have to clean it EVERY time you use it. I think they say 500 gallons of liquid through it. Damn thats alotta hooch. What I use to do is boil 1 gallon of water and pour that through the filter after 2 or 3 runs just to wash out any impuities because of course the carbon is removeing them and holding whatever is comiing out of the hooch. Then after 2-3 runs and some boiling water I would remove it and bake it for a while and that gets rid of evrything else. Just go by taste and what makes ya feel warm and fuzzy. If it still tastes ok them use it again.
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#74 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:32:34 AM(UTC)
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Do you trim the paper filter to fit in side the rubber O-RING?
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#75 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:27:35 AM(UTC)
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"Scotty, I employed the pvc tube filter -- that only requires some cotton in the bottom of the tube to hold the carbon from falling out. Plus it does collect any dust from the carbon that might be dislodged during filtration. I dont have the BH setup so I cant give specfics on that, sorry.
With mine its just a tube with a cap that has a hole drilled in it. When I assembled I just put some cotton in the cap and then put the cap on the tube. Then fill the tube with cleaned carbon, the weight of the carbon holds the cotton down. Then I used a 2""x6"" reducer for the funnel effect -- can you see it??
the tube was about 30 inches long and it worked quite well. I know some are much longer and thats cool but this one worked really well for me."
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#76 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:27:05 AM(UTC)
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Well your answer helps clarify a possible improvement in the filtering method. The stainless rig also has an exit hole drilled in it. The base piece is flat and the weight of the wet carbon would push the filter paper flat against the base piece. i thought that the paper filter would only allow filtering through the small area just over the exit hole. The cotton would solve this.

My solution is to cut a circle out of stainless mesh to place under the paper filter against the base piece which will keep the filter paper from going flat and losing filter area. I have the mesh left over from making some false bottoms for a couple of my pots.

Im in process of making a bracket from which to hang the carbon filter device.
Since the e book says that the flow rate should be 400ml/hr or less. I will first experiment with dripping water. I guess it will take about 10 hours to filter 1 gallon.

YIKES lol

We are cutting the pieces today. I hace some sanitary cotton that i purchased to use with some yeast experiments. As i get some testing done, i may also add a blob of cotton to the process.
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#77 Posted : Sunday, January 27, 2013 4:38:22 AM(UTC)
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i agree rack mine off of yest bed right into cooker & run comes out fine
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