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#1 Posted : Monday, August 15, 2005 2:41:09 AM(UTC)
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hello guys i am new to this whole concept and i did purchase and read 'Making Pure Corn Whisky' I have my still made and i am starting to gather gear for my first run. As soon as we finished making the still we discovered that we had a bunch of skuzzy beer laying around ,a 12 pack, so we distilled it and got about 100ml. At the end of the run our marbles started to rattle and jump, is this normal? also am i suposed to try to locate flaked maize or will flaked corn from tractor supply work? Also is it that critical that i adjust the pH in the municipal water? and were does everyone get there barley malt, 48 hour yeast, and other ingredients at? do i need a alcoeter and a hydrometer? any help or tips at all will be greately appreciated please reply. thanx
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:08:46 AM(UTC)
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anyone willing to help a little? I am very anxious to get my first run done and i just need a little help from people who have done it before. thank you
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, August 16, 2005 3:37:36 AM(UTC)
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Some of the best tasting stuff I've ran thus far came from a batch of the Turbo 24 hour yeast, sugar and 1 lb. crushed corn flakes.
As for the meters, I personally think a mash meter is useless. You can tell when it's ready to run. It quits working. I do use an alcometer to proof it though.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:13:51 PM(UTC)
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Ryan, the basic thing is; whatever can ferment will and; ethanol is ethanol, everthing else is flavoring.

Having good equipment won't make for a good mash but it can help. It is easier to get consistency when you can measure instead of guess.

As long as the maize or corn is edible it can make good whisky. Don't use treated seed corn. Of course the fungicide that is on seed typically kills yeast so you can't get a good ferment anyway. Animal feed is ok!

If you want good mash you should find a homebrew supply store. They will have the ingredients. Otherwise you can use malt syrup, cornflakes etc. from the local grocery. Wheaties and bread yeast have been known to make grain whisky.

I would suggest that you first try using a turbo yeast with a sugar wash. This makes for an easy ferment and it gets you to the distillation stage faster. You can buy turbo yeast from Brewhaus or there are other places that sell turbos. They are easy to ship if need be. You can buy the sugar locally. Have fun!
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#5 Posted : Sunday, August 21, 2005 4:57:41 PM(UTC)
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Hans thank you VERY much for the reply, i am going to order turbo yeast tomorrow and i was wandering if it will have directions on how much to use and things of that nature on the back of the pack. I want to start fermenting this weekend at least by the 27th any help at all will be apreciated. Just a simple suger and yeast wash is what i will be using now. I still wanted to clarify a few other details, do i really need to adjust the pH of my water like it sais to do in making pure corn whisky? Also about my marbles jumping around at the end of the run? please reply anyone thank you so much! brewhaus is a wonderful tool in gaining knowlege for this hobby!!!
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#6 Posted : Monday, August 22, 2005 12:20:21 PM(UTC)
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Turbo yeast packets have directions and the amount of ingredients on the package. They are easy to use. The packet contains the yeast, acid and nutrients to have a good ferment.

When making corn beer you may need to adjust the pH of your water. Some people have good water to begin with and they don't need to do anything. Yeast like an acid environment to grow in. The acid also keeps other organisms like lacto bacillus from taking over the ferment. ,this is one reason for the sour mash process,

If you want a consistent product then you want to do things the same way. If you can adjust the pH of your water so it is the same every time then you will have that much more control of your process.

Marbles bouncing in your column? I'm not sure but it sounds like you may need to reduce the heat as the alcohol % drops at the end of your run. The marbles bounce from a vigorous boil in a flooded column. Have you checked out Tony Ackland's www.homedistiller.org

Maybe someone else has more experience with your type of set up.
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#7 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2005 1:10:59 PM(UTC)
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I thought that there was only an exchange of vapors in the column, but you say it boils and this is why the marbles bounce. What is a flooded column?
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#8 Posted : Saturday, August 27, 2005 5:11:35 AM(UTC)
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The best thing would be for you to go to www.homedistiller.org and study how distillation works. If you like you can download the files so that you can look at them off line. You can put the files on a CD.

The vapor from the boiler is pushed up the column as more is boiled off. This vapor in the column cools and condenses and then revaporises ,or boils, with a higher alcohol %. This continues as long as you have column length.

If your column is too small in diameter for the amount of vapor going up the column then when condensation occurs the column will be filled with liquid and 'flooding' will occur. This may be partial or complete depending on your set up. The boiling condensate may then cause the marbles used as packing to rattle. Reducing the heat causes less vapor to go into the column reducing the flood condition.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2005 10:29:02 AM(UTC)
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For Hans, or someone who knows: If mash is distilled using a valved reflux still, will there be a different taste if one uses corn in the mash as opposed to just sugar/water/yeast?
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