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Offline jdubbya  
#1 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:26:48 AM(UTC)
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I think i will just stick to buying it, no point in reinventing the wheel, thanks for all the info, glad i did my homework before i wasted alot of time an money an risk of jail which i found out was very real, i figured this would be like beer didnt realize the how serious they are bout this stuff, good luck guys an thanks for all the help. Ifa moderator reads this can you delete my account or at least tell me how to do it? I cant find that answer of how to do that either....
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#2 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:41:18 AM(UTC)
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If you like more corn flavor i would guess 75% flaked corn to 25% malt.

If folks say you can use diferent proportions ((more corn))listen to them. I dont make shine alone but burbon is basicly shine or corn with rye malt
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#3 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2012 2:41:12 PM(UTC)
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I think the corn flavor you are referring to is added after the distilation. A lot of distillers add flavor after the fact. You might try an all corn mash by malting your corn. I've never used an all corn recipe. I like a 70% corn and 30% 6 row malted barley mash. You might also consider mashing your corn then adding an enzyme mix to convert your mash to sugar.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2012 2:43:30 PM(UTC)
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And oh yea use a pot still so you don't lose the flavor. Low and slow keeps the flavor and leaves the nasties
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#5 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 1:17:11 AM(UTC)
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each recipe claims to be the one an they are all different and seem conflicting an contradicting as well...

jdubbya,

I guess you'll have to get busy and try them all! :) Seriously, start working your way through the different recipes and decide what you like best... and learn how to adjust your grain bill to get the flavors you like.

It's VERY unlikely that you'll get your perfect flavor on your first runs. But you may come across a flavor that's different than what you were shooting for ... and decide that it's better ... that's one of the best things about what we do.

Good luck!

Regards,
--JB"
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#6 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 1:36:41 AM(UTC)
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I concure with everybody eles.....I cant tell you if you make --this recipe-- it will taste JUST LIKE THIS. If someone tells you that then dismiss their opinion. There are just tooooo many variables in the wash-fermentation-stillin- and what you keep in the collection jug. ALL of the big guys --JD,JB,CR--all of them -- blend -- the barrels to get that just the same flavor each time. Unless of course they call it a single barrel whiskey. And even then I bet they tinker with it in differnet ways. Because how on earth could they make each barrel taste exactly like the last one???? I'm not an expert this is just something I ponder.
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#7 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 2:52:34 AM(UTC)
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jdub, I tried that Georgia Moon once, its not my fav. but if you like it thats cool. Someone mentioned they added flavor to the finished product, well I'm not sure about that but what I found was, that distinctive flavor of the corn sota dissapeared after alilttle while. Not sure why. In a month or so the hooch tasted totoally differnet. Still not sure why or saying I did'nt like it. That just might be a sign its flavored for all I know.
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#8 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 2:56:20 PM(UTC)
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I based the comment that the corn flavor might be added after the distillation on an old long since defunct distiller in Ga that I had the pleasure of working with years ago. All of their spirits were made of local corn and distilled to a neutral spirit.

The spirit was then flavored and colored as sales dictated. Scotch, bourbon , gin , shine were all in their line up. The stuff wasn't to bad cept for the mean a%# hangovers
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#9 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 10:54:28 PM(UTC)
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I based the comment that the corn flavor might be added after the distillation on an old long since defunct distiller in Ga that I had the pleasure of working with years ago. All of their spirits were made of local corn and distilled to a neutral spirit.

The spirit was then flavored and colored as sales dictated. Scotch, bourbon , gin , shine were all in their line up. The stuff wasn't to bad cept for the mean a%# hangovers


Ya know I bet most likkers are distilled to a near neutral....I know they all use grains but how neutral is it really when its added to a barrel???? I dont know.

And we ALL know what causes those mean azz hangover, thats the very reason I dont like commercial likker anymore. We all remove the shit that makes our noggins hurt. Glad you pointed that out ---- makes us all think to do it right and make good cuts when we still our own."
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#10 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:12:57 AM(UTC)
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Hey think I might have discovered how get a nasty old hangover out of shine. Chip it up to where it looks and tastes like bourbon. Worked for me anyway..for them who miss it. I am headed directly back to White Dawg as soon as my headache goes away...lol.
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#11 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2012 7:03:54 AM(UTC)
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The Feds ain't coming to your door unless you sell the stuff or tell everyone you know about what you are doing.
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#12 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2012 7:37:18 AM(UTC)
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"Dittos Sir. Of all the folks who are bound to be out there in the world pursing the hobby..only heard of one they bothered to arrest..least in this area. The slime ball was selling to kids. Think they got him on a state selling to minors charge. Did not hear of any G Men brought into the pic. Now it may have been he was not the one who made it but they did say it was shine. He mighta got it from Pap Pap in PA..lol. I would stick to that story for a while anyway.

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#13 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 11:40:42 PM(UTC)
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"Hey think I might have discovered how get a nasty old hangover out of shine. Chip it up to where it looks and tastes like bourbon. Worked for me anyway

Well Im not too sure what that means but for a newbie reading this the way you remove hangovers from your hooch it to make good cuts ( that means removeing the foreshots and heads) and consume only the best of the hearts."
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#14 Posted : Saturday, September 22, 2012 2:39:14 AM(UTC)
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Well it means leaving the cuts out of the equation...chipped up psudo bourbon causes worse hangovers than white dawg. The operative word of the day is congeners . Bunch of links out there to splain why. Here's one. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8416431.stm. Since we have some who are too busy to chase links I have included a snippet of a quote from the above webpage.

>>quote. The reason why whisky might cause more unpleasant hangovers might lie in the number of molecules called "congeners" which it contains compared to vodka, said Professor Rohsenow. These include small amounts of chemicals such as acetone, acetaldehyde and tannins.<<quote
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#15 Posted : Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:19:24 AM(UTC)
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I have yet to get a hangover from my white dawg, or my uncle's for that matter. Good homemade stuff is always the best!
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#16 Posted : Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:48:59 AM(UTC)
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Me neither on the hangovers from White Dawg. Thats why I think my headache come from wood chips.
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