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Offline dddjr  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 25, 2012 3:45:41 AM(UTC)
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I was running some sugar wash this weekend when I got called into work, now I have to work 12 hr shifts everyday for possibly awhile , I still have about 5-7 gallons left of wash can that be stored in a sealed container? I hate to have to pour it out because I don't have time to finish it anytime soon
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 25, 2012 6:07:14 AM(UTC)
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Has it ben finished with the fermenting--If so treat it like wine-- Sorbate and sulfite--
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 25, 2012 1:30:28 PM(UTC)
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yes fermenting stopped , I had been running it for almost 2 days but had to stop and didnt want to lose the rest ,, thank you for the information and hope you had a wonderful christmas :)
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:23:28 PM(UTC)
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I'm just curios to know how you know when fermentation has stopped? Hydrometer or ??? I usually just go by days but since posting a question have been testing the hydrometer reading.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 25, 2012 4:27:49 PM(UTC)
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the bubbling had stopped in the airlock for over 24hrs so I figured it stopped
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 25, 2012 10:48:24 PM(UTC)
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The tripple scale hydrometer reading below 1 is the standard and most reliable method. I also have a refractometer but thats one of my toys. .996 on the hydrometer is my goal.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:55:46 AM(UTC)
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yes fermenting stopped , I had been running it for almost 2 days but had to stop and didnt want to lose the rest ,, thank you for the information and hope you had a wonderful christmas :)


I had been running it for almost 2 days but didn't want to stop..............does this mean you were distilling it for 2 days or it was fermenting for 2 days????"
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 26, 2012 2:25:17 AM(UTC)
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I had fermented for 2.5 weeks ,, I was distilling for almost 2 days ,, it was a 10 gallon wash distilling at a constant 178 degrees for 33hrs ,, the first 7-8hrs was just getting it too the 178 i took my time
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 26, 2012 2:46:09 AM(UTC)
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I had fermented for 2.5 weeks ,, I was distilling for almost 2 days ,, it was a 10 gallon wash distilling at a constant 178 degrees for 33hrs ,, the first 7-8hrs was just getting it too the 178 i took my time


Well what comes to mind first is......DAMN!!!!!
Why did it take 7-8 hours to get to that temp??? AND...if you weren't actually to a distilling temp why didn't you up the temp? I'n not trying to be a smartass but man you could have saved yourself about 25 hours. Did you actually collect a drinkable distillate at 178F?? And was it actually distilling??
More info plz....."
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, December 26, 2012 2:58:30 AM(UTC)
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i discarded the first 600ml , after that i collected 1.5 gallons 165proof so far ,, smells good tastes good ,, I just figured why be in a hurry this was my 2nd attempt the first attempt I didnt take as long and after 2 quarts something went wrong It started too look odd it had a tint too it and didnt really taste good , the 1st 2 quarts were fine tho , figured maybe i heated too fast so this time i took my good old sweet time lol , I was using a digital thermometer the probe was located at the top of my column on a 15 gallon keg not really sure how accurate temp reading was I went mainly by sound and then smell and taste , it started dripping about 155-160 smelled like nail polish remover , I let too keep going slowly when it hit about 178 ( it fluxed between 178 and 180) the taste changed and so did the smell so changed jars , kept it at a constant temp i kept tasting hear and there everything seemed good
I just figured slow and steady would produce more abv and a better produce
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:18:37 AM(UTC)
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If you got 1.5 gallons from a 10 gal. wash how much more do you think you can get? Is it worth messing with,I'm not being a smart a$$ I just don't know and would like to as I'm learning.... Thanks

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:27:08 AM(UTC)
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I'm not sure really I might of been real close too the end when I had to stop but I'd still like to experiment with it just for the learning experience if anything else ,, and I know noone is being a smartarse I'm a newbie at this and any advise or recommendations I love at this point, this forum and everyone on it so far as been extremely helpful yes I might be wasting time and not get anymore but I still learned something heheh
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:07:22 AM(UTC)
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dddjr,
That's exactly why I asked hoping some one more experienced will comment and we both can learn...
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:13:09 AM(UTC)
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"When I'm doing my stripping and reflux runs I measure each jar (by ounces) of output and record the ABV of that jar using my alcoholmeter. By totaling each jar by alcohol content you can get a good idea of where you are by comparing the total ABV extracted to what the beginning ABV. IOW, if the hydrometer reading says you have 14.0 ABV multiply that by the total ounces of wash to be distilled, eg 5 gallons = 528 * .14 = 74.00 ounces should be returned by the distillation. I'll usually shut down when the reading is below 10 ABV. The really experienced among us probably have better ways but this works for me.

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#15 Posted : Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:02:40 AM(UTC)
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Agreed.... that is how I calculate it as well. You have a known quantity of alcohol in a known quantity of liquid and you can never extract all of it so let your experience be your guide. I think you were spending way to much fuel and time for any possible increase in purity. I run for around 11 hours usually including the warm up and I pull 94 % usually by keeping my vapor in the right temp range until I get to about the last 10 % of available alcohol.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:39:21 AM(UTC)
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yeah thats what I was doing , once i got a pint I tested and seen what my abv was for that pint and except for one pint that was 160 all was at 165 so far
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, January 02, 2013 4:51:59 PM(UTC)
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Are you refluxing or only pot stilling? Your abv indicates pot mode, but we need your input. You will have to either make multiple pot mode runs to re-refine the product or age it. The best raw scotch tastes really harsh right out of the still, but from a 30 yo barrel it is heaven. (Balvinie). If you are indeed refluxing then you need some help. Please post your equipment list, including heat source so that we may be of service.
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#18 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 10:33:14 AM(UTC)
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15.5 gallon stainless steel keg , 18" stainless steel column from brewhaus,, Turkey Burner ,, just know learned that I should of used copper scrubbers lol ,, added the scrubbers too each jar too clean out the sulfury taste and smell I noticed a few days later ,, the wash was 18lbs table sugar and 1 packet turbo in each of the 2 6gallon carboys let too sit for 3 weeks before running ,, and I experimented with what I saved and it was junk but was a good learning experience lol
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#19 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 12:01:58 PM(UTC)
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15.5 gallon stainless steel keg , 18"" stainless steel column from brewhaus,, Turkey Burner ,, just know learned that I should of used copper scrubbers lol ,, added the scrubbers too each jar too clean out the sulfury taste and smell I noticed a few days later ,, the wash was 18lbs table sugar and 1 packet turbo in each of the 2 6gallon carboys let too sit for 3 weeks before running ,, and I experimented with what I saved and it was junk but was a good learning experience lol


We use the scrubbers in the path of the distillate vapor(while you are cooking) (put them in the tower) not in the finished product, did that actually make a difference in your hooch??
Did it actually remove the sulphury taste??? Thats a new one on me......."
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#20 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 1:37:22 PM(UTC)
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"yes vastly improved it , Ive had 1 scrubber in each quart jar for 1.5 days and the smell and taste are a lot better going to give it another day or 2 see what happened ,, yea for now on I'm using scrubbers in the column ,, my question is where in the column near the condenser tube or closer too the keg itself , figure 2 loose in there should do the trick,,


yeah I wasnt sure if it work I seen another thread John Barleycorn suggested it

http://www.brewhausforum...hlight=funky+smell"
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