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Offline beerandbooze  
#1 Posted : Friday, December 28, 2012 2:01:59 AM(UTC)
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"I posted this question once, if the administrator doesn't want me comparing Brewhaus equipment to competitors, please let me know.

I'm wanting a pot still column to put on a Sanke keg. Brewhaus makes one, Hillbilly Stills makes one. Hillbilly Stills is all copper and for another $75 seems like a better deal. That said does anyone have an opinion? Speed is my number one important factor here."
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#2 Posted : Friday, December 28, 2012 2:21:52 AM(UTC)
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The only problem that we have is when competitors sneek on here and try to point people to their site. Legitimate questions are fine. :)

Is there a reason that you think copper is better than stainless steel? If it has to do with the reactivity of copper, that is easily handled by adding a bit of copper to the vapor path (eg. a small amount of copper mesh). Barring that you will find stainless steel easier to maintain and far lower cost than copper.
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#3 Posted : Friday, December 28, 2012 2:25:11 AM(UTC)
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"i deleted the thread because it didnt contain enough information for me to view it as anything but spam. Dont always blame the Administrator-- We have had more than our share of spammers and others-- I will continue to be quick on the trigger.


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ps-- stainless is extra durable and last and lasts"
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Offline beerandbooze  
#4 Posted : Friday, December 28, 2012 2:30:42 AM(UTC)
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i deleted the thread because it didnt contain enough information for me to view it as anything but spam. Dont always blame the Administrator-- We have had more than our share of spammers and others-- I will continue to be quick on the trigger.


THIS IS WHY WE ASK ALL POSTERS TO GIVE LOTS OF INFORMATION IN THE QUESTIONS


That's fine. I'm out of state at my inlaws using my iPhone to post questions on here and other forums, hence the brevity.
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#5 Posted : Friday, December 28, 2012 2:34:03 AM(UTC)
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Is there a reason that you think copper is better than stainless steel?


I'm really wondering which one is faster.
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#6 Posted : Friday, December 28, 2012 2:39:51 AM(UTC)
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Faster? Confused Speed of distillation has absolutely nothing to do with the metal, and both columns that you referenced are 2" diameter.
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#7 Posted : Friday, December 28, 2012 2:50:20 AM(UTC)
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Faster? Confused Speed of distillation has absolutely nothing to do with the metal, and both columns that you referenced are 2" diameter.



I realize that but they're not the exact same dimensions, one inherently must be faster than the other, even if the difference is subtle.
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#8 Posted : Friday, December 28, 2012 3:42:38 AM(UTC)
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For the most part diamater relates to speed. The height difference will relate somewhat to purity, but that is more for reflux distillation. And, if you wanted us to build to 12" high instead of 18" we can easily do that.
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#9 Posted : Friday, December 28, 2012 3:50:23 AM(UTC)
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Does the length of the condenser have anything to do with speed or purity?
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#10 Posted : Friday, December 28, 2012 4:19:50 AM(UTC)
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Does the length of the condenser have anything to do with speed or purity?


Execellent question, I don't know. I was wondering why the change over time? Old stills have a very long worm, now they're very short. I assume it's because back in the day they didn't have frozen jugs and pumps to cool the condenser down really quickly.
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#11 Posted : Friday, December 28, 2012 5:48:50 AM(UTC)
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The condenser is just there to condense the vapor back to liquid, and has no effect on speed or purity.

Jacketed condensers do not need to be nearly as long because you are constantly flowing cold water over the condenser, so it can do the same job in a much shorter span.
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#12 Posted : Friday, December 28, 2012 8:13:28 AM(UTC)
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That's kind of what I thought but wasn't totally sure. Thanks
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#13 Posted : Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:12:00 AM(UTC)
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Old stills have a very long worm, now they're very short. I assume it's because back in the day they didn't have frozen jugs and pumps to cool the condenser down really quickly.


Bingo! Same condensation properties in a smaller more manageable package."
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:23:55 AM(UTC)
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The only problem that we have is when competitors sneek on here and try to point people to their site. Legitimate questions are fine. :)

Is there a reason that you think copper is better than stainless steel? If it has to do with the reactivity of copper, that is easily handled by adding a bit of copper to the vapor path (eg. a small amount of copper mesh). Barring that you will find stainless steel easier to maintain and far lower cost than copper.


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#15 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:03:51 AM(UTC)
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On the question of copper scrubbers and sulphur, does a copper parrot do anything or does the copper have to be in the vapor path?
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:23:12 AM(UTC)
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No, (on the parrot) the scrubbers need to be in the path of the vapor (or in the tower) ---- by the time your parrot comes into play its liquid again. And the parrot does nothing but hold the overflow liquid so the hydrometer can float and read your etoh %.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:32:46 AM(UTC)
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That's what I thought. Thanks for the clarification. I still think I'll go copper with my column.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:09:16 AM(UTC)
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It will affect the quality though, the warmer the condensed vapor, the hotter the product will be, not proof hot but hot sauce hot. So in my humble opinion, the cooler the better.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:26:27 PM(UTC)
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With the condenser on the BH still the condensate comes out quite cool unless your running the boiler way too hard/hot. Then it does'nt matter what type of condenser/worm you have your going to get some foul likker anyway.
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