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Offline Homemade19  
#1 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 3:18:51 AM(UTC)
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Hi everyone, I am planning in buying the PSII high cap next month and i am wondering if anyone could provide some insight on what heat source i should use. I am using it indoors and I'm upgrading from a stove top still i made so i don't know too much about the heatheat plates or heating elements and i don't know about drilling a hole in a brand new $400 still. anyone got any suggestions? Thanks guys.
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#2 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 3:32:39 AM(UTC)
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get brewhaus to do it. I think they only charge around $35 to put an NPT fitting in. With an 8gal kettle I have a 1650w heater element with a 20amp rsc and works great
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#3 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 3:34:53 AM(UTC)
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the great things about the npt coupling is you can change wattage-- you can also plug it to use a diferent heating method.
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#4 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 4:00:02 AM(UTC)
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Sounds great to me. Funny i just read one of your post on another thread, i think it was a sign. And you use a 110 that maxes at 15 amps a 20 amp rsc.
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#5 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 4:06:46 AM(UTC)
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you are referring ti dieselduo i guess. i use a 5500 watt 220 volt element that switches to rsc controlled 120 volts(giving me 1675 watts) at a certaint point
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#6 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 4:16:40 AM(UTC)
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I used to have a 15amp rsc but got to hot. I use a 20 amp now with 110v 1650w heater element that I have been using for a few months now that doesn't even get warm. Scotty has a sticky in the forum that shows the math
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#7 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 4:21:12 AM(UTC)
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Sorry Scotty i was referring to dieselduo. How big is your boiler Scotty?
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#8 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 4:57:39 AM(UTC)
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Hi Homemade,
If you are in the buying phase I would suggest the 15 gallon kettle with 2 npt's. I use 2 110v 2000w elements and control one with an rsc. My rsc only get warm not hot. You can easily put your hand on it and after a 3 hour run it is only warm to the touch.
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#9 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 5:30:10 AM(UTC)
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Thanks maddawgs, i was actually looking into a 8 gallon but I'll look into the 15 gallon. what its the amperage on your rsc? I was looking into a 2000 watt 120 volt heater element and only using one for 8 gallons with a 20 amp rsc correct me if im wrong but i figured the element would draw about 16.6 amps.
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#10 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 5:54:08 AM(UTC)
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Hi Homemade,
If you are in the buying phase I would suggest the 15 gallon kettle with 2 npt's. I use 2 110v 2000w elements and control one with an rsc. My rsc only get warm not hot. You can easily put your hand on it and after a 3 hour run it is only warm to the touch.
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i have the 8 gallon and sorry i didnt get the 15 gal--- 8 gallon works fine i just would like to store some mash for a larger run higher than the 8 gallon later on,, the 2 npt fittings works well is a great idea too. -- my tower almost hits the roof of my porch now .

im saving for a custom boiler now."
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#11 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 5:55:53 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Homemade19 Go to Quoted Post
Thanks maddawgs, i was actually looking into a 8 gallon but I'll look into the 15 gallon. what its the amperage on your rsc? I was looking into a 2000 watt 120 volt heater element and only using one for 8 gallons with a 20 amp rsc correct me if im wrong but i figured the element would draw about 16.6 amps.


Hi Homemade,
It is an heavy duty 20amp model. Not sure of the model but it is the one that is most recommended on this forum. I run it with one 2000w element on it's own dedicated 20amp circuit. I run the second 2000w element on a seperate dedicated 20amp circuit. I think you are correct on the 16.6 draw.
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#12 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 6:05:58 AM(UTC)
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Ok cool i think quite a bit of my questions have been answered first looking into it, it sounds a lot more complicated than it really is. Only question left is what models of elements/rsc do you guys recommend?
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#13 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 6:09:20 AM(UTC)
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#14 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 6:15:24 AM(UTC)
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Nice saw that one earlier i think it'll fit the bill.
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#15 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 7:22:03 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Homemade19 Go to Quoted Post
Thanks maddawgs, i was actually looking into a 8 gallon but I'll look into the 15 gallon. what its the amperage on your rsc? I was looking into a 2000 watt 120 volt heater element and only using one for 8 gallons with a 20 amp rsc correct me if im wrong but i figured the element would draw about 16.6 amps.

Forgot to mention that it a lot cheaper to order the 15 gallon kettle as part of the package than it is to order it seperatly
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#16 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 7:23:32 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dieselduo Go to Quoted Post


Exact model I have and got it from the same place
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#17 Posted : Monday, January 21, 2013 7:40:16 AM(UTC)
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I was going to go with the 8 gallon kettle then move into using a sanke

Also the element I'm looking at only has two leads and from what i read they will both be hot is it necessary to ground these things?
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2013 1:08:39 AM(UTC)
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Did some digging found the answer in an older post. I'll need 12ga cord and up the leads and run the ground to the kettle.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2013 1:55:25 AM(UTC)
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you can put a hose clamp around the npt fitting and ground it there
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, January 22, 2013 2:15:35 AM(UTC)
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I saw that on the post as well it seems like that would be simple and work well enough. I greatly appreciate all you guys help.
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