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Offline Wuglar  
#1 Posted : Saturday, February 02, 2013 2:05:27 AM(UTC)
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"So lets say, I know a gentleman that lives in Illinois. That gentleman is interested in home distillation unit from BH.

The gentleman knows that it is illegal in the state of Illinois but only wants to make it for himself. So he is contemplating the risk.

He would like to know... If he ordered a distillation unit... Is any purchase reviewed by any law enforcement or some government agency? Is the purchase completely confidential?"
Offline Maddawgs  
#2 Posted : Saturday, February 02, 2013 2:44:25 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Wuglar Go to Quoted Post
So lets say, I know a gentleman that lives in Illinois. That gentleman is interested in home distillation unit from BH.

The gentleman knows that it is illegal in the state of Illinois but only wants to make it for himself. So he is contemplating the risk.

He would like to know... If he ordered a distillation unit... Is any purchase reviewed by any law enforcement or some government agency? Is the purchase completely confidential?


Hi Wulgar,
Welcome to the forum. Buying and owning a still is not illegal. Using it to distill alcohol without a permit is in every state and most countries. When you buy one from just about any retailer it will have a serial number inscibed on it and assigned to whoever buys it by law. So there will be a legal record of your purchase of a still. Does the goverment demand a copy of these records from the retailers? They could but probably don't. You'll find that if you try to buy one, most retailers are so backlogged that you will have to wait. That means that a lot of people are buying stills. I'm assuming that most are using them illegally. We all follow the basic rule DON'T TELL, DON'T SELL. Judging from the thousands of users of this and other related forums a lot of people enjoy this hobby without going to jail. Now if you choose to take up the hobby and then choose to make hundreds of gallons to sell then chances are pretty good you will get a visit from your local, state, and federal officials willing to offer you a place to stay for a while. If you are going to make a few gallons a year for your own consumption or to share when you have friends over the you probably have nothing to worry about. Hope this helps you out.
Maddawgs
Offline John Barleycorn  
#3 Posted : Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:49:35 AM(UTC)
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Wulgar,

If I'm not mistaken, the parts with a product condenser are the items for which a vendor must maintain a customer list. If there's no condenser, then there's no list. The government may request a copy of the list but the request must be in writing. So I believe it's possible to order everything other than the product condenser without any worries. You could potentially also order a custom PSII that did not have a product condenser & just build your own to stay off of the grid.

Rick, do I understand this correctly? Or am I just stepping in it again? Tongue

But like Md mentioned, I think it's unlikely you'd have any problems if you don't tell, don't sell.

--JB
Offline Bushy  
#4 Posted : Saturday, February 02, 2013 2:14:16 PM(UTC)
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Hey JB if you look on the column with the condenser that's where the serial number is located. All legit manufacturers put serial numbers on this part of the still, the only way to avoid this is to build one yourself or have someone build one for you.

I use my two stills for the manufacture of essential oils and have SS product baskets to prove it. Though I have been known to stray once in a while.

As for the government checking the rolls and making house calls I doubt they have the man power to do that. Exception may be for the larger stills, 35 to 500 gallons with 6 inch or larger column diameters.

As long as your not making gallons of the stuff for sale and don't tell everyone you know about it you will probably be Ok.
Offline old stump juicer  
#5 Posted : Saturday, February 02, 2013 5:59:25 PM(UTC)
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The ATFE can't even pursue 10% of the felony attempts to buy guns with the instant background check system, so it would surprise me if they have time to waste on a simple homeowner with a hobby still!
Not that I'm putting them down on the arms issue, but why are they wanting more gun restrictions when they can't enforce the ones on the books now?
Yes I have a phobia about this stuff!
Offline Wuglar  
#6 Posted : Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:37:35 AM(UTC)
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Pretty much what I thought. Thanks!!
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