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Offline cypherlock  
#61 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 1:45:18 PM(UTC)
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As far as gun control goes Cypherlock I feel that you may not be concerned about the Government making the AR 15 and it's worthless .223 round illegal. I think that's a mistake even if you personally don't have any use for it.

I agree sir, indeed. I don't think they will make it illegal, but they will drive up the price and the scarcity such that it becomes too expensive for the average person to shoot. If that fails, they will change liability laws so that gun manufacturers are liable when a gun is used in a violent crime."
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#62 Posted : Friday, February 08, 2013 3:46:06 PM(UTC)
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cypherlock, I didn't mean to come down hard on you, I know we're on the same team here but sometimes I do sample the fruits of my labor. When I do it sometimes clouds my judgment. My apologies sir.
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#63 Posted : Saturday, February 09, 2013 3:20:39 AM(UTC)
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I don't think they will make it illegal, but they will drive up the price and the scarcity such that it becomes too expensive for the average person to shoot. If that fails, they will change liability laws so that gun manufacturers are liable when a gun is used in a violent crime.


And drive up the cost of ski masks since they've been used to conceal identity during a violent crime, making them too expensive for the average person to wear? How about computers used in cyber-crime? Or baseball bats? Hunting knives? Automobiles? Dogs?

The prohibition era was one of the bloodiest periods in our country's history with respect to gang violence/criminal activity. It's interesting to note that the solution wasn't to ban various weapons.
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#64 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 6:39:40 AM(UTC)
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And drive up the cost of ski masks since they've been used to conceal identity during a violent crime, making them too expensive for the average person to wear? How about computers used in cyber-crime? Or baseball bats? Hunting knives? Automobiles? Dogs?

The prohibition era was one of the bloodiest periods in our country's history with respect to gang violence/criminal activity. It's interesting to note that the solution wasn't to ban various weapons.


http://www.thegatewaypun...90-days-to-turn-in-guns/

Missouri Democrats Introduce Legislation to Confiscate Firearms - Gives Gun Owners 90 Days to Turn in Weapons
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, February 14, 2013, 9:52 AM


Gun Control Works

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Missouri Democrats introduced an anti-gun bill which would turn law-abiding firearm owners into criminals. They will have 90 days to turn in their guns if the legislation is passed.

Dana Loesch Radio reported on the new legislation being pushed by Missouri Democrats:

Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution.

Here"s part of the Democratic proposal in Missouri:

4. Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution:

(1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri;

(2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or

(3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations.

5. Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony.

UPDATE: It"s not just Missouri...
Minnesota Democrats Introduce Law to Confiscate Guns... Using Same Language as Missouri Democrats"
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#65 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 9:35:54 AM(UTC)
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i agree sir, indeed. I don't think they will make it illegal, but they will drive up the price and the scarcity such that it becomes too expensive for the average person to shoot. If that fails, they will change liability laws so that gun manufacturers are liable when a gun is used in a violent crime.



lol blame everyone except the criminal!!!!!!!!"
Offline okie  
#66 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 1:39:38 PM(UTC)
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Typical liberal knee jerk reaction. They react emotionally and never think things through.
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#67 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 2:20:19 PM(UTC)
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I don't think it's knee jerk at all. The communist/democrat agenda has been total disarming of the US citizenry for many years. Being able to resist Government Tyranny , which now is a communist takeover, is only possible by an armed citizenry. Give up your arms a little here and a little there and pretty soon you will be a miserable communist subject without any rights at all.
Offline Bushy  
#68 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 2:47:53 PM(UTC)
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+4 on that div4gold. This has been going on for at least 30 years. A little infringment here and a little there over 10 years and then a big push when the older generation dies off. I guess it's time for another big push.
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#69 Posted : Friday, February 15, 2013 3:51:12 PM(UTC)
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I don't see Missouri or Minnesota turning in anything, these stupid democrats have lost their mind, if they ever had one!
The only ones in this country who think that will happen are drinking too much cool-aid.
Even the Supreme Court has not got the power to overturn the second amendment, it is bullet proof! Those laws that were put in force in 1934 and 1968 are in violation of the US constitution and no American Citizen should be held to answer for them!
Obama, Kiss our Ass!
Offline cczero  
#70 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:46:09 AM(UTC)
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I don't see Missouri or Minnesota turning in anything, these stupid democrats have lost their mind, if they ever had one!
The only ones in this country who think that will happen are drinking too much cool-aid.
Even the Supreme Court has not got the power to overturn the second amendment, it is bullet proof! Those laws that were put in force in 1934 and 1968 are in violation of the US constitution and no American Citizen should be held to answer for them!
Obama, Kiss our Ass!


If the government (Federal or State) were to start confiscation the only ones who would voluntarily surrender them would the Gimmycrats. They believe the government exists to take care of them and thus have no need for a means of protection."
Offline scotty  
#71 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:57:41 AM(UTC)
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Gee cc dont you think all the criminals would also surender the guns and then we wouldnt need to arm ourselves any more. Sounds logical to me
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#72 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:33:15 AM(UTC)
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I agree with the long term plan. I know I said knee jerk but I also think some things are false flag events designed so their knee jerk reactions will be accepted by the masses. Look at the latest event and search out the truth ad you see a false flag event. It's how things were done in other countries too on that road of gun grabbing from citizens.
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#73 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:08:55 AM(UTC)
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Gee cc dont you think all the criminals would also surender the guns and then we wouldnt need to arm ourselves any more. Sounds logical to me

LOL. Right. And here lies the absurd ideas of the left. Let's make a law and surly all will abide. Nonsensical. But yet they continue to believe all criminals will abide. I'll keep my guns no matter what the Obama admin thinks. As will millions of other patriots. Bring it on!
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#74 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:20:46 AM(UTC)
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As will millions of other patriots. Bring it on!
Aye, Shall Not Be Infringed

And, there are millions of Patriots among the sheeple.
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#75 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:13:36 AM(UTC)
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Gee cc dont you think all the criminals would also surender the guns and then we wouldnt need to arm ourselves any more. Sounds logical to me

LOL. Right. And here lies the absurd ideas of the left. Let's make a law and surly all will abide. Nonsensical. But yet they continue to believe all criminals will abide. I'll keep my guns no matter what the Obama admin thinks. As will millions of other patriots. Bring it on!"
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#76 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:15:40 AM(UTC)
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LOL. Right. And here lies the absurd ideas of the left. Let's make a law and surly all will abide. Nonsensical. But yet they continue to believe all criminals will abide. I'll keep my guns no matter what the Obama admin thinks. As will millions of other patriots. Bring it on!


i'm with you :)
Offline div4gold  
#77 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:54:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: okie Go to Quoted Post
I agree with the long term plan. I know I said knee jerk but I also think some things are false flag events designed so their knee jerk reactions will be accepted by the masses. Look at the latest event and search out the truth ad you see a false flag event. It's how things were done in other countries too on that road of gun grabbing from citizens.


The 'False Flags' do keep popping up. Imagine what would have been the outcome of Fast and Furious if someone hadn't blown the whistle on it and it shows what lengths our current administration is willing to go to disarm us. They planned it, they implemented it, they stood by while innocent Mexican and Americans were killed and didn't say oops or anything until it came out from inside by whistle-blowers . How well it was carried out only affected the operations planners being protected by our justice dept. Whose going to prosecute the justice dept and the heads of the FBI,ICE,ATF and their boss in the White House? Obviously, no one. They would have had some major ammunition for more gun control if that had of went smoothly. That should border on Treason and Impeachment of all of those involved. The School shootings, the Mall shootings, the Theater shootings all come at opportune times and maybe my verging on paranoid, I am not totally satisfied that each is what it seems. I'd put nothing past the usurper in the White House. The communists running this government have been waiting for decades for this to come to pass and it's an all out push now to complete it. Heaven help us or we are all going to be comrades.
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#78 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:00:36 PM(UTC)
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Call them bleeding hearts for Sandy Hook or whatever you wish, these people that are supporting this push for more gun control do not realize that we are just the first victims, they will be next and without us there will be no one to protect them!
This Obama white house is hell bent on turning the USA into a dictatorship and it is looking like they will succeed.
Bankrupting the country instilling civil unrest and causing riots as a front to declaring martial law is the greater plain. We are just a few months away from it being implemented.
Please stock up on food.
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#79 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:11:58 PM(UTC)
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Call them bleeding hearts for Sandy Hook or whatever you wish, these people that are supporting this push for more gun control do not realize that we are just the first victims, they will be next and without us there will be no one to protect them!
This Obama white house is hell bent on turning the USA into a dictatorship and it is looking like they will succeed.
Bankrupting the country instilling civil unrest and causing riots as a front to declaring martial law is the greater plain. We are just a few months away from it being implemented.
Please stock up on food.


Following Karl Marx's plan for World Communism. Why would the masses think that was a good idea? Looks like Marx was right about his labeling the masses as useful idiots. The media is so into this up to their ears I'd never believe a word the Main Steam Media regurgitates. Too bad McCarthy didn't succeed.
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#80 Posted : Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:58:12 PM(UTC)
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Call them bleeding hearts for Sandy Hook or whatever you wish, these people that are supporting this push for more gun control do not realize that we are just the first victims, they will be next and without us there will be no one to protect them!
This Obama white house is hell bent on turning the USA into a dictatorship and it is looking like they will succeed.
Bankrupting the country instilling civil unrest and causing riots as a front to declaring martial law is the greater plain. We are just a few months away from it being implemented.
[COLOR=""#FF0000""]Please stock up on food.[/COLOR]


Don't forget lots of water and ammo."
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