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Offline BamaShineRTR  
#1 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 8:51:46 AM(UTC)
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I have been useing distilled water for months now, i have searched the internet for ever, trying to find out why i can not use tap water. I seriously can not find a site that says not to use it....Please tell me why i can not...Thanks alot. I use a 6 gallon pot still if it matters....:)
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#2 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 9:55:45 AM(UTC)
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Also i have heard you can use tap water if you let it sit for 24 hours to let the chlorine evaporate......the main reason i am asking is that Distilled water is about $1 a gallon, does not seem like much but it adds up. I do not even know if chlorine will evaporate...lol...
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#3 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:44:49 AM(UTC)
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What are you talking about? water for fermenting or cutting?
I use tap water (city water) for my ferments and I have not had any trouble at all with it. However when making my cuts I use distilled water. If you use tap water it will make your shine cloudy.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:57:13 AM(UTC)
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I am talking about fermenting,,,,,i have been useing distilled for fermenting and cutting... Seen a video on YouTube and it said to use distilled water for fermenting but never said why.......but good to know it is ok to use tap water....thanks
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#5 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:10:54 PM(UTC)
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I think this is one for great debate. I buy spring water, just because its the closest I can get to my well water up at the cabin. I would prefer to use the water thats in my tap but I have concerns with all the chemicals that are put into the tap water to make it safe like chlorine and such plus they also put fluoride and other supposedly "good" chemicals for quality of life. Distilled water seems to me to be chemically neutral in that it has been distilled - everything removed but is that really what we want? I think Distillery's will only use a certain water i.e. Jack Daniels with the on site spring water, but I wonder what the others use if they dont have access to spring water?
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#6 Posted : Sunday, February 17, 2013 4:03:47 PM(UTC)
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Chlorine will evaporate out of the water. Because of this most municipalities use chloramine now which will not evaporate, as chooch stated other chem such as fluoride are added. Buy yourself a $100 rodi ( reverse osmosis deionization) unit and create the profile you want. Saves you plenty if you plan to brew ferment distill for awhile
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#7 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 12:13:43 AM(UTC)
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I have always used spring water for fermenting beer. The minerals in the water are good for the yeast and the water has some character for taste. Some guys even use reverse osmosis water as a base and add various salts back to it to achieve specific water profiles to match the water profile for the origin/style of beer their brewing. As far as cutting, I wouldn't know, but it seems like you could go distilled or spring for that. Just depends on what you like. Yes, chlorine will evap ever night if you let it air out. If your water tastes good, it will be fine.
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#8 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 12:26:26 AM(UTC)
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I cant see any reason not to use tap water for ferments, it would have to be pretty foul to come through the distilling process. I agree with good water for blending though, have had cloudy product. a few times now using tap water.
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#9 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 3:11:49 AM(UTC)
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ANd see.. Here's where I must have gotten confused - or maybe I just thought of it as a best practice or something to use water in a 5gal carboy, from a local spring water company like Ozarka or the like.

I have a few of those zerowater 2 gal filter decanters in the fridge, and with each, came a tester. What surprised me was the differences between the zero water outputs, bottled and tap. The tester doesnt say what the PPM consist of, just the counts.. Zero water decanters when NEW are .000, whereas Ozarka bottled was like .050, but my tap water here (Rural water company-Lake water) was like .225 - So, it got stuck in my mind to use the ozarka spring (minerals) over the zero water - and it takes a while to make up 5 gals using the zero watrer too....

Maybe it's just time for a test with three smal batches to see BigGrin
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#10 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 4:03:38 AM(UTC)
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I have heard of folks that use whatever water they can and just boil it, if you have a BOP and a turkey fryer there ya go. Its not a time saver but its a money saver I bet. And when I say boil I dont mean for 5 hours just get it up to a boil and thats good enough. I did that with beer water several times and then decided it just wasn't worth all the extra effort. I live in Fl. and we have the shittiest water going but it seems to be good for likker, once we make a wash we're gonna almost boil it anyway.
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#11 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 4:56:36 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: heeler Go to Quoted Post
I have heard of folks that use whatever water they can and just boil it, if you have a BOP and a turkey fryer there ya go. Its not a time saver but its a money saver I bet. And when I say boil I dont mean for 5 hours just get it up to a boil and thats good enough. I did that with beer water several times and then decided it just wasn't worth all the extra effort. I live in Fl. and we have the shittiest water going but it seems to be good for likker, once we make a wash we're gonna almost boil it anyway.


I've been following this thread and was waiting for someone with more experience with this hobby to chime in and give there opinion, and that's kind of what I was thinking. Now if you have some foul tasting/smelling untreated well water that's a different story, I'd find something else to use for fermenting. I've also read that after boiling your water it takes the oxygen out of it and you want to aerate the water to put back the oxygen for the yeast...
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#12 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 5:04:12 AM(UTC)
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been using tap water for years--never an issue
Offline John Barleycorn  
#13 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 6:53:38 AM(UTC)
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Bama,

Do you have city water or well water?
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#14 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 6:54:56 AM(UTC)
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I use tap water for the ferment and distilled for the cuts.

I take 4 gallons of tap water the day before mashing and boil it up, let it cool down overnight, and then use bubble stones for 2 or 3 hours for adding air back in before add my mash. Works for me.
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#15 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 1:33:41 PM(UTC)
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Sounds to me that whatever you use, tap, spring, distilled or filtered, rain or well water if it works for you then use it. I'm not such a expert on liquor that I could even tell you the difference LOL. I do think that boiling tap and aerating is a good idea (we are on Detroit water supply so I wont use that at all) for your ferment and using distilled for cuts (learned that here)..I've been using spring but I like the idea!!
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#16 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 1:34:45 PM(UTC)
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City Water.
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#17 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 1:35:32 PM(UTC)
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ok i feel comfortable using tap water now.....thanks
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#18 Posted : Monday, February 18, 2013 6:09:38 PM(UTC)
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Haven't made an oz of likker, made lots of beer. Biggest issue with beer and tap water is chloramines, if your municipality doesn't use them then your great. I made tap water beer for years, when I switched to filtered water is when my beer actually got good. But, like I said, I haven't made an oz of likker so it could all be for mute.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:11:04 AM(UTC)
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I've used distilled water, then I bought mountain spring water and used that. Now that I found out to check with your city water department and get the latest water quality report, I've decided to go with city water. The one thing to look at is the PH of the water. 7 is neutral and under that is acid. MY city has 8 so I'll need to squeeze a lemon in mine when I use it, and I'll do as Bushy and boil first, cool overnight and aerate.

Then there is the water stores. Here they sell RO water for .25 a gallon. I'm drinking it as drinking water, It is clean of fluoride and chlorine but it is also closer to distilled water as to any minerals. I'm thinking that is a great choice for clear likker, and tap for whiskey.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:47:14 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BamaShineRTR Go to Quoted Post
City Water.


Since you're using city water you should be able to request a copy of the water report from your public works department. The report should tell you pretty much everything you need to know.

I use filtered water and plain old tap water from a well. My tap water passes through an ion-exchange filter. My filtered water passes through two additional stages of carbon filtering. For sugar washes I just use the tap water. However, if I do any mashing I use the filtered water and make whatever water adjustments are necessary. Unless you're doing any brewing your filtered water is probably fine ... especially if you already know it works ... if it ain't broke, there's nothing to fix.

If you plan on doing any brewing, then you want to get that water report so you can select an appropriate grain bill for your water. Or as I believe chris mentioned, you can get yourself a nice RO system and ""build"" your water for whatever you want. Here's a pretty good read about water if you're interested in AG:

http://www.howtobrew.com/section3/chapter15.html

I'm fortunate as my water behind the ion-exchange filter has essentially zero hardness ... but since the exchange replaces hardness with salinity, I have to address that with some carbon. Beyond that I have reasonable flexibility when it comes to building the water even without an RO system. I'd love to add an RO system, but I haven't had the time, money, or the need just yet.

--JB"
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