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while wanting to eventually make Apple Pie moonshine, I am a traditionalist when it comes to alcohol matters. I want to make a corn based mash instead of skipping out and making just the sugar mash. Tried one batch, strained it with a cloth, but still had quite a bit of corn meal in the mash. Once in the cook pot, quite a bit of the meal carried into the finished product. How do I distill without having the cornmeal in the final product? Thanks!
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if you use coarse ground cm instead of fine(you can get it at most bodegas) and then use a clearing agent before siphoning I don't think you will have that problem
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Rack your ferment until its clear
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"Leave it alone until it settles, your in tooooo big of a hurry. Most of us are of course, I think you said --in the finished product, well that tells me that you are pushing your heat WAY too much. If you are getting corn meal in the distillate then rethink your still and stillin methods, slow down and do it RIGHT. I dont know what kind of unit you useing so its difficult so advise but the problem can only be a few things.
The still
or cooking method
Let your wash settle and compact then use a gentler transfer method and leave all the meal behind...its really that simple. But that wont solve issues with useing your still in the worng fashion."
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I use those paint strainer bags. The wash is still yellow but there ain't any solid chunks in it. And yea, if it's coming out the business end of the still, you're pushin' it to hard.
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That bag is good for seperateing the grains but it wont keep out the yeast byproducts so dont just dump all the wash into the bag.....if you strain the grains before you ferment and then use a autosyphon or a racking cane to remove the liquid from the fermenter after fermentation, and then leave the goop in the bottom of the fermenter when you add the wash to your boiler, that should take care of any solids in the boiler.
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Used cracked corn Insteqd. It won't be as messy and taste better I promise. Corn meal whiskey looks and taste like starchy crap...cracked/whole corn is the way to do it.
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I've been suffering this issue for a while and have settled on a pretty good solution. First, don't be greedy or in a hurry. If you want lots of product in a hurry, use sugar and turbo.
I installed a tube screen strainer about 1.25 inch off the bottom of my primary fermentor and attached the end to a spigot I drilled through the side of the bucket. When the ferment is starting to slow down a lot, I rack off of my primary into a clear glass secondary. I raise the primary, attach a hose to the spigot and let it drain into the secondary for 24 hours. I end up with a cloudy beer in the secondary and a fairly well drained grain on the primary.
I set the secondary aside to finish and clear. How long? As long as it takes. I have learned that I cannot schedule a run until I have something ready to go. Once it is ready, you only have 2 - 3 months to run it before it goes bad. After a month or two, you can still run it and it will be fine.
Back in the primary, I scoop out half to 2/3 of the used grain and dump a new batch on top.
When the secondary is done, I siphon off only the clear beer. The sediment in the bottom I harvest, wash, and store a pint in the refrigerator. The rest I add to the boil of the new wash as yeast nutrient.
If you try to get every ounce of beer out of the grain, you will make yourself crazy
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"I tried the corn meal a few times, then went to a cracked corn, and have much better results. BUT, before giving up on the meal, I used a siphon hose (think cut piece of garden hose) placed in the fermenter below the surface ""floaties"" and siphoned til it got to the gunk in the bottom. That worked pretty well, but I agree the meal wash never did have a taste I nor few enjoyed. I actually cut it to 50/50 with a neutral and it became paletable.
I also agree if your getting solids in your finished product you've got your pot way to full, (try about 75 to 80% capacity), and/or your pushing it WAY too fast. Turn the heat down, slow it down and you shold be fine.
BTW, I never got a corn wash to get ""clear""...clearer than mud maybe, but it never looked like something you'd willingly drink.
Good luck
Farmin
PS, most would suggest to start with your garden variety sugar/water wash, it is cheap, easy to make, simple, and lets you worry bout other things, like running your unit....i know thats what i did...then progress to the more intensive recipes.
Farmin"
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