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"has anyone tried this? from this link : http://homedistiller.org/distill/dtw/strip Alex adds more information: Chemical Cleansing Fresh Home Made Alcohol This is a free type translation/interpretation of a freely available material found on web pages dedicated to production of alcohol at home. There are no claims of any kind for this data. The first chemical reaction of saponification binds fusel oils and makes it insoluble. In order for this reaction to work, alcohol must be tested for pH. If reaction shows that home made alcohol does contain dissolved acids then regular baking soda should neutralize the reaction. The proportion is 5g~8g of baking soda per each liter of alcohol. After adding baking soda and stirring it well, potassium permanganate is added. Potassium permanganate should be dissolved in small quantity of clean water beforehand. The ratio is 2g of potassium permanganate dissolved in 50 mL of clean water per each liter of home made alcohol. The mix of alcohol, baking soda and potassium permanganate is stirred well and left alone for 15~20 minutes for reaction to finish. After this stage is complete, additional baking soda is added to the mix in the same proportion as above, stirred and left alone for 8~12 hours for precipitation of solids. Next day any sediment is filtered and alcohol goes through the second distillation. This method of removing fusel oils is rather efficient and removes up to 95% of its content."
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I also found this: here: http://cluborlov.blogspo...orlovs-vodka-recipe.html Now, here is the magic step that turns cloudy, stinky, low-grade moonshine into something that is indistinguishable from Stolichnaya, Finlandia, Absolut, or any other high-quality commercial vodka. Sprinkle in potassium permanganate crystals (available in bulk from pool supply stores) and agitate until the liquid turns slightly pink. Label it "Poison!" to make sure nobody drinks it, and let it stand overnight. (It's won't kill you if you drink it, but it will wipe out your intestinal fauna and give you really bad diarrhea, so it's important to make sure that nobody drinks it at this stage. If some fool does drink it, just feed him some yogurt or acidophilus tablets, plus something for the fierce hangover.) A day or so later, the solution will no longer be pink (or toxic), but it will be cloudy, and there will be some dark precipitate at the bottom. Take a funnel, pack it with cotton, lay down a layer of charcoal (either commercially available activated charcoal or wood charcoal knocked off a partially burned log), and pack it down tight. Drip the distillate through the filter, changing the stuffing every gallon or so. The result will be clear and have no taste or smell other than the taste and smell of alcohol. Add water to bring it to 80 or 100 proof, and consume responsibly.
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"[SUB]. In order for this reaction to work, alcohol must be tested for pH. If reaction shows that home made alcohol does contain dissolved acids then regular baking soda should neutralize the reaction. [/SUB]
What is the PH we are looking for that determines dissolved acids?"
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Well, I have never tested the PH of alcohol but I have been aware of PH balance in the body and I have tested myself many times. I was drinking PH 9 water, alkaline evamor water, for years and I used it in my scotch. I tested that drink and it was a 7.5 so I always assumed all alcohol was acidic. I also read it was.
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4L of ethanol at 100 proof with 1 tbl of baking soda is around 8.7ph
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So the pink color disappearing means no more KMnO4? Sounds risky but I suppose after filtering it could be considered consumable. I like the sound of distilling a second time to guarantee removal of KMnO4.
Either way though... I'll bite. I have some KMnO4 and some 95% booze that hasn't been charcoal filtered yet. I'll take half a pint and see what happens. There is the potential for the KMnO4 to oxidize the ethanol to acetic acid. Hopefully with a small quantity all KMnO4 will react and not be there for consumption.
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"Sorry to double post but I didn't want to just edit this in.
I tried the 2nd suggestion from the vodka grandpa. Here are all the dirty details.
I had half a pint of some 95% tails that definitely had a sulphur skunky wet cardboard smell to it. I also had a little less than a gallon of 95% from the same run that smelled okay. Just a sugar wash ~15% (based on EtOH recovered, I didn't check before I ran it) that was crystal clear when I racked it into my PSII. pH was 7 all around.
Now for the experiment. I put about half a pea's worth of potassium permanganate into the half pint of tails and shook to dissolve. It turned pink but within an hour there was some brown percipitate (MnO I think). After a few more hours the pink color had completely disappeared and I left it to settle overnight. In the morning it had settled mostly (clearing agent anyone?) and there was a fine brown ppt. I filtered it through an inch of activated carbon, not so much for the benefit of the carbon, but because the ppt was super duper fine. It came out just a tiny bit cloudy. I ran the hearts through a semi-proper carbon filter also.
Things to note real quick. For filtering the tails/MnO I just put wet activated charcoal in a funnel and poured it through real quick. For filtering the hearts I did the whole loading the filter with water in it to exclude air blah blah blah micro and macro pores blah blah then chased the last of the booze with more water. Anywho... proper filter job.
Conclusion? The tails cleared up very nicely and tasted comparable to the well filtered hearts. Honestly, I was surprised. At first I thought I added way too much KMnO4 and the pink would never go away but nope. Cleared up in no time. Anybody else? Questions?"
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Just two,
what kind of still tower are you using???
and how did you get 95%---TAILS?????
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Reflux tower with the bottom half filled with raschig rings.
I don't think I'm collecting everything right. I only collect a tight fraction (2*C range). If it starts to go above my range I increase the reflux to keep the temp down. This way I'm only collecting EtOH. I guess my tails would technically be the tails of the hearts and not "official" tails.
This works pretty well. Someone else should try it out as my palate is still in its infancy. Maybe in a few weeks I'll try out the first suggestion with baking soda, KMnO4, more baking soda, and a 2nd distillation. Sounds yummy.
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