"Well after a lot of waiting I finally got approval from the Alcohol And Tobacco Tax And Trade Bureau. I now posses a valid Federal Alcohol Fuel Producer Permit. Under the provisions of my permit I can legally produce up to 10,000 gallons of Ethanol per calender year for FUEL. I am required to make gauges, take inventories, and maintain records of my operations. I also have to file a report each calender year with the TTB summarizing my fuel plant activities. I am required to keep my permit and application on file on the permit premises and readily available for examination by TTB officials. And of course they can show up to look around anytime they wish.

On a side note for those who are curious, no one ever came out to inspect my property prior to issuing the permit and as a matter of fact, they did not even talk to me on the phone about it.

Others experiences may varies................. "

Sounds great BR ENJOY.

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Title 27: Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
PART 19"”DISTILLED SPIRITS PLANTS

Subpart X"”Distilled Spirits for Fuel Use

Accounting for Spirits

§ 19.709 Gauging.

(a) Gauging equipment and methods. A proprietor of an alcohol fuel plant must perform periodic gauges of the distilled spirits and fuel alcohol at the alcohol fuel plant. The procedures for the gauging of spirits set forth in part 30 of this chapter also apply under this subpart. In addition, the following rules for the gauging of distilled spirits and fuel alcohol under this subpart also apply:

(1) The proprietor must determine the proof of spirits by using a glass cylinder, hydrometer and thermometer;

(2) The proprietor must ensure that hydrometers, thermometers, and other equipment used to determine proof, volume, or weight are accurate;

(3) The proprietor may determine the quantity of spirits or fuel alcohol either by volume or weight;

(4) To determine quantity by volume, the proprietor may use a tank or receptacle with a calibrated sight glass installed, a calibrated dipstick, conversion charts, an accurate mass flow meter, or other devices approved by the appropriate TTB officer;

(5) Unless the proprietor chooses to do so, the proprietor is not required to determine the proof of fuel alcohol manufactured, on hand, or removed; and

(6) The proprietor may account for fuel alcohol in wine gallons;

(b) Verification by TTB. TTB officers may at any time verify the accuracy of the gauging equipment used.

(c) When gauges are required. A proprietor must gauge spirits and record the results in the records required by §19.718, at the following times:

(1) Upon completing the production of distilled spirits;

(2) On the receipt of spirits at the plant;

(3) Prior to the addition of materials to render the spirits unfit for beverage use;

(4) Before withdrawal from plant premises or other disposition of spirits (including fuel alcohol); and

(5) When spirits are inventoried.

(26 U.S.C. 5201, 5204)

§ 19.710 Inventory of spirits.

A proprietor of an alcohol fuel plant must take a physical inventory of all spirits and fuel alcohol on the bonded premises at the end of each calendar year. The proprietor must record the results of this physical inventory in the records required by §19.718.

(26 U.S.C. 5201)"

How long does it take for it to get back when you send off for it?

Gotcha on the BH.The bureaucrats must have missed this statute. Dont notice too manly lawerly type words. Or they in such a rush to go Green they are cutting folks some slack. Now if Alfgore ever shows up at your operation kindly tell him we are the only nation on earth dumb enough to burn up our food supply in the gas tanks or our cars..(paraphrasing our old pal G Beck here:) I don't have many good thoughts but I pray a lot. Praying the Lord will bless your venture mightly and have requested His Angels to surround you as you work and or play etc. Now I have a plan. Make friends with the local remote control airplane group and pretend to be selling them small amounts of fuel for their airplanes. That should work.

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You're welcome, glad i could help."

All you have to put is the size of the column. width x length

RoyseCityRed,

Have you been able to determine if anything needs to be filed to the state (Tx.) before turning in this AFP application?

Heya flht - Not sure the TABC covers fuel production. Also, TABC regulations allows 200 gals of beer or wine to be home brewed - with an additional 100 gals for households with a spouse or significant other, and in dry counties, up to one quart of home distilled spirits can be possesed legally. In short, hobbyists are not bothered too much as long as it's just a hobby.

Bayou - Thanks sir... Me missus is tight about givin out details...

yes sir, I'm pretty anal about following process (esp. when it's for any govt agency). I's dotted and t's crossed, and checked three times. I read that form over about three times so far, and I am going to collect the information and get ready.

The serial number needs to be etched with more than ink I am suspecting.. Like with a dremel stylus?

Gawd, what did the military do to me... I am a geek!!