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Offline yurmo  
#1 Posted : Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:36:14 AM(UTC)
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I know most people use electric heat source but someone must be using a blichmann burner. I need to know how to get the heat low enough. I have a BH 8 and 15 gallon kettel and when I use ither I just can't get the drip rate as slow as I want. I turn the burner down until it's just faint blue dots but still seems like too much heat. When I reflux I can controll rate with colum cooling but I go through over 100 lbs of ice. I have about 50 gal. of water a radiator with fan blowing on it. I don't use defusser plate because I am running sugar wash with gerber whole grain, is this my problem? If anyone can help please do , thanks
Offline John Barleycorn  
#2 Posted : Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:43:18 AM(UTC)
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"I have a Blichmann Top Tier burner, but I've only used it for brewing. So please understand that I'm not talking from experience with respect to distilling.

Based on my brewing experience with this burner so far, I can understand what you're saying. It'll get you to a boil pretty quick -- it's quite a hunk of iron. There are two things I would try if I was attempting to burn a bit cooler. The first thing I would try would be to bring my wash to a boil more slowly so it wouldn't run away from me. The second thing I'd try would be to raise the kettle a few inches. Maybe rig some angle-iron somehow.

Sorry I couldn't offer any suggestions from actual experience.

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Offline RCRed  
#3 Posted : Sunday, August 25, 2013 12:21:02 PM(UTC)
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I have the Blichmann floor model and a 15gal kettle. As Mr. Barleycorn has suggested, bring it up slow. What I do is watch that temp, when she crosses about 140f, down we go on the heat (and, cooling water to the condenser is enabled) to just blobs and I make the rise into the foreshots zone slowly. We are after a balance in the column, right? So I try an build to that ever so slowly. I've done hard and fast until I see the first foreshot drips, but it's an unwieldy bitch to get under control from there - temps just wants to soar and it takes time for that kettle to settle and I ended up see-sawing temp adjustments and smearing.. Yuch.

My experience is it's easy to maintain once I get to temp, and I seldom have to add heat. For my experience, I wait a good 3 mins between adjustments to see what effect I've made - I understand we cannot control via the temp on pot runs, but it is a guide - I just have to remember that the temp I am observing is column temp and the kettle is warmer. I have an infrared temp gun (Like the HVAC boys use) I use to get a reading off the kettle near the base, so I have some idea what temp is occuring in the kettle. Once I find the sweet spot, she'll stay stable until the temp goes up a tad thru the natural progression of the run. Even then, I try to be careful about making any changes on the heat. what I have observed is that the column temp will oscillate back and forth by 2-3 degree's but then settle back to the stable "current normal" - As a relative newcomer, I document column temps observed for each cut jar I'm taking along with distillate temp, abv, and cut jar # - for my records more than any thing else - but I do get trending datum after a few runs I can observe and analyze.

Now, I have made the stupid mistake of moving the bottle (or bumping it) and getting an unwanted adjustment and upsetting the balance. Even them, I try hard to avoid making any large moves to regain temp. As so many here say, low and slow..I love that Blichmann.

Also, careful with the diffuser plate, I think I have read where it can melt when using it over a burner under high settings. I don't use it as a diffuser when I use the Blichmann. It does serve exceptionally well as a table top platform for my catch bowl (filled with sand and the jars set in that.) under the condenser. I have not yet been sucessful at building a decent parrot BigGrin

Now, about the cooling - I save back my 2.5 distilled water jugs and freeze tap water in them and I put one into a 50 gal trash can with about 10 gals or circulating water. I find I can get about 6-8 cut jars (read: half pints) done and I need a new block. I got thru about 4 blocks per run, but I can refreeze them so I am not burning thru bags of ice.
Offline Bayou-Ruler  
#4 Posted : Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:14:52 PM(UTC)
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I have a Blichmann Top Tier burner and have had great success with it. Used it on a 8 gallon kettle and a 55 gallon drum with no issues.
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