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Offline GBfanKeith  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 09, 2013 3:52:54 PM(UTC)
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Been brewing beer but getting int the better quality stuff. ran a couple small batches in a 6qt pressure cooker, ran fine moved up to a 62qt stainless steel pot getting ready to run 15gals rum, I know my temp how long should it take to get to ideal temp? first big run alittle nervous and what am I reading about filtering? got 3 5gal containers fermenting now with brown sugar and turbo48 yeast. seems cloudier than my smaller batches. ambient temp roughly 80 to 85 degrees. appreciate all the advice, really glad I found this websit. plan on being very active
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 09, 2013 9:28:44 PM(UTC)
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"Lots of reading and studying to do, dont take shortcuts cause you WILL be dissapointed in the end, I say all this because seeing your recipe and your ferm temps makes me think your jumping the gun but if its all good to you well there you have it.
Most folks here like to help and give advice but you still need to research and read to get all the facts before you start. good luck and happy hoochin."
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#3 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:06:59 AM(UTC)
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... dont take shortcuts cause you WILL be dissapointed in the end..
Boy, and how... Can be costly too...

That temp is a bit high.. Maybe some off flavors coming along, but as Heeler said, it's all good as long as you like it BigGrin

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Offline Hokey  
#4 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:15:24 AM(UTC)
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Hi GB fan, Welcome. You have been making beer and knowing how to ferment is a good start. The heat up time is varies with size of wash, ABV of wash and how much heat you are using. I have a 15 gal boiler with two 120 volt internal elements and it gets to temp in approx. 45 min. I agree with others on the ferment temp. Also in my humble opinion Turbos aren't the best yeast.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:48:38 PM(UTC)
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Thx Hokey let me start by saying thx for the response, now come the questions, why not turbo48 and what should I be using? Ur boiler stainless? Ive been using propane (turkey fryer burner, VERY ventillated area) my boiler 62 qt 18 guage stainless, this will be my first distillation with this pot, practiced with a 3 gal stainless pressure / propane. first using wine, wild irish rose, and (3) 5gal brown sugar washes, hopefully not jumping to big to fast but just so exciting. hopefully we can chat more
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#6 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:19:09 PM(UTC)
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Thx for replying, I want to distill only top quality time to pick you're brain and be one of the best.you say by my recipe and ferm temps I maybe jumping the gun why? Using alcotec turbo 48 yeast dark brown sugar,molasses recipe (3 distilles in a 3gal stainless pressure cooker) next I want to try just white sugar any suggestions? One response said turbo yeast no good why? Want to stay intouch (hope you dont mind) Now got 62 qt stainlees boiler, 1/2 dia copper pipe for a worm and heating with a turkey fry burner (in a WELL ventillated area) any comments nor advice thx man
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#7 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:38:26 PM(UTC)
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Thx RCRed for response can I pick ur brain> you say temp is a bit high why? what ive read and heard ideal collection temp 64 c 168.8 f to 83 c 181.4 f stop collecting 87 c 190 f is this correct? if not why? one response said turbo yeast no good any thoughts? found recipe for white sugar instead of brown (havent tried yet) any suggestions eventually want to go to a corn mash, when i better thx for info and hopefully you dont mind all the questions (will be asking alot) knowledge leads to GREAT tasting distillments
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#8 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 12:31:29 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GBfanKeith Go to Quoted Post
Thx RCRed for response can I pick ur brain> you say temp is a bit high why? what ive read and heard ideal collection temp 64 c 168.8 f to 83 c 181.4 f stop collecting 87 c 190 f is this correct? if not why? one response said turbo yeast no good any thoughts? found recipe for white sugar instead of brown (havent tried yet) any suggestions eventually want to go to a corn mash, when i better thx for info and hopefully you dont mind all the questions (will be asking alot) knowledge leads to GREAT tasting distillments


Ok, you were talking about the distillatiojn phase...I was asusming (from the lack of detail) that you meant the ferment phase and I tend to do ferm's in the 76-78 F range - takes longer, but no off tastes with the type of Yeast I am using in my approach.

This craft is more science than "doing". That said, we need posts with some level of detail, not a novel, but a good description so we know what the actual question is.... from my limited experience, Turbo's are good for quick ferments, but with quick you also get other things too.. One of them can be off tastes. I use Turbo's for fuels in sugar washes. For Corn or grains, I use different yeasts.

About distillation(s) - No two run are exactly the same - Sorry, but mother nature see's to that... Ideal collection points (tempwise) vary based upon the % of etoh in yer wash, and the H2o boiling point on the day of distillin'. Even then, these calcs are simply forecasts, like we get from Joe Bastardi on the weather channel Wink Mode of run and how fast/slow collection is done has a great deal to do with the end flavor. I'm a member of the "low and slow" crowd, low temps, slow collection, best flavor...

What I've found happeinin' is when I make a run, i get to see how well I've guessed what Mother nature will do BigGrin


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#9 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 1:59:09 AM(UTC)
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Hello and welcome to the forum, I believe what some here are telling you is going from a pressure cooker to a 15.5 gallon keg is a huge jump. If your unsure about some of the details read this site. Most likely it's been asked before. I use both a 15.5 gallon stainless steel and an 8 gallon stainless steel. I use both it depends on what I'm wanting to do or make. I also don't use a turbo yeast i don't like the off tastes. Of course that's just my opinion.
You need to ask yourself are you using the 15.5 for a spirit run or for a stripping run and go from there. worse case it it comes out at a low % of alcohol or if it has off tastes then re-run it.
best of luck!
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#10 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 2:32:16 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: johnnyapplepie Go to Quoted Post
... worse case it it comes out at a low % of alcohol or if it has off tastes then re-run it.
yes sir, exactly.. We say "re-run" it and it doesn't represent the amount of time that takes - and if you are like me, this is a hobby and time for it is precious, so I've little time for re-doing things when I can avoid them in the first place. Some of my passion on that is from my first failures where I learned the hard way what part of the matrix could be bent, and what parts could not be broken w/o repurcussion...(So to speak)... My VP summed it up one time for me; "It's great when the team makes the save, but I grade on preventing the need for the save in the first place". Tough Lady, but she is right BigGrin


Heck, even going from running one 5gal SF wash to a 10 gal wash from two ferments dumped into a 15 gal stainless was different!! And I'd made 7 generations of SF runs before I tried my increased wash size.. I know why, my gravities were a a tad dfifferent between the two, and it vapored 4 degrees earlier than my calcs forecasted. I enjoy being able to "know" and "taste" how things are going, but I also rely heavily on the science side to back things up.

We will be looking forward to hear how it goes! Good Luck!
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