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"I have wanted to do this for a long time. It took me over a year to get my rig built. I put together a small valved reflux unit. I use a propane burner and a 15.5 gal beer keg as my pot.
I used a sweet feed recipe. 4"" of sf in a 5 gal bucket. Added 6# of white sugar and 3 packs of regular yeast. Fermentation took 10 days for both runs. I ran the wash through cheese cloth to strain it and was very careful to only get liquid to the point I left some useable was in the bucket getting barely 4 gal of wash.
I started my water at the start and started getting output at 146. I collected 500ml which I tossed. I then went full reflux for a little over an hour. I watched my temps and it stabilized at 174. I then opened my output valve and closed the reflux valve about 75%. I collected in small jars. I smelled and tasted the output frequently. The first 4 were very good but very strong. Number 5 was very good, a little sweet and not bitey. My temps started climbing and when I couldn't keep under 195 I shut down. The last jar was just a little cloudy. I was pouring the small jars into a gal jug. It test 185 proof for both runs. I let it set with a coffee filter for 2 days. The jug was just a little cloudy. When I checked on day 2 it was clear but there was some white residue in the bottom of the jug. I poured the jug through a coffee filter and it was ok.
Everything was the same for both runs. Total run time for each was a little over 3 hours.
I got a little shy of 1/2 gal from each run. I made an apple pie mix and diluted the product 50/50. I let this sit for over a week.
We tried it and my buds thought it was great.
I am new and would appreciate any input from you guys that know your stuff. My 3rd run is fermenting now."
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i wish my first two went that well.
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I'm still really new also but the slower you can run it the cleaner it will come out.
Also ... separate the grain from your wash before fermenting. After it is done fermenting let it sit for a week or two. All the yeast will settle to the bottom. Siphon it leaving the yeast at the bottom and that will also help with the residue.
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When the first two were done fermenting the grain floating on top settled. That is when I strained and ran it. This time I think I am going to strain the solids out and leave the wash sit and clear. Then siphon off the liquid.
Can I use some of the lees from one batch in a new batch and adjust new grain, sugar and yeast accordingly also adding the backset from the pot?
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Ran my third run this past weekend. Weather was terrible. Cold. It took over an hour before my column temp got to 145. That is were I started getting product. As always I threw out the first 300ml. After running in full reflux for an hour I then started collecting but noticed a white cloudiness. I put that into a jug. I watched and collected until it cleared. When it cleared out the smell and taste were good. I got about a qt of good stuff then it started to get a strong smell and taste. That stuff I put in the jug. I wasn't prepared to save the backset and dumped it. Seems like I had a lot more backset this time. I stopped collecting when column got to 190. I aired the qt for a day. I need to proof it but it is good, strong but good. Smelled like what I was looking for. I femented a sf mash for 10 days, strained out the wash and let it set for a week then syphoned off the wash leaving approx. 3/4 gallon on what looked like a yeasty wash. Starting with 5 gallon I probably only came out with 3 to 3.5 gallon of wash to run. Running a valved reflux rig. Question: is about a qt of good stuff what I can expect from this much wash? Can I run the other stuff with my next run? How much did ambient outside temp have to do with the run and what seemed to be more back set than normal? Thanks for the help.
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Hi cork. I live in the North East and have my boiler and column insulated during the winter months if I run in my cold garage. It helps a lot I believe. It is difficult to tell if the quart you collected is what you should expect. You would have to know the ABV of your wash and other things like ;type of still and how you run it. But if you had 3.5 gals of a 11% wash you would have approx. 1 1/2 qts of 100% alcohol in your wash. No home still can get all of the etho out and it won't be 100% either. So you probably are not that far off. Maybe just a little short. I would run what you put into the jug with your next batch. Sometimes I save all of my feints and do an "All feints run" and it usually comes out fine. It looks like you are on the right track. Good luck and be safe.
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"Hokey, what type of insulation do you use. i was at HD the other day looking for a 1"" thick covered type of insulation to wrap my column with. I didnt make it to the water heater area that day. Do yu use a regular pufy insulation or look for a jutt type? thanks."
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HI Whiskykid. I use a product called Reflectix. It is like bubble wrap coated with a thin foil layer on both sides. Comes in different size rolls. It is very easily cut with scissors or razor. and I tape with two inch foil tape which is usually in the same aisle at Lowe's. It works great. Reflectix 25-ft x 24-in Reflective Insulation
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Oh, by the way, I use internal electric heat. I just tested a piece and direct flame on Reflectix is not good. I'm not sure I would use this with propane or at least be very careful with the flame.
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I was gonna ask abt that with regards to the column only, Hokey...I use a Blichmann burner and it seems the heat doesn't make it externally to the column - but I have a 15 gal BH boiler and the contour to the column is an inch or two from the start of the taper to the lid - so I am wondering if the heat goes just straight up and would miss the column, allowing me to use Reflectix on the column only... |
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I have the same boiler and I think that should be fine. Plenty far enough away I believe. Maybe even foil tape around the bottom edge?
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"Hokey/RCRed, thanks for the info. I have the aluminum diverter under the kettle, so not too worried about flame. i think the column is more seceptable to the heat fluctuation since i am running outside. i will try that area first. I have wanted to get some of the reflectex for my garage evees anyhow."
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Careful with that diffuser o'er a flame, bro.. Folks have melted them.. |
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