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Offline dieselduo  
#1 Posted : Friday, January 31, 2014 10:16:21 AM(UTC)
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I made a trade and got in the deal 25 lbs of frozen silver queen corn. Anyone had any experience with it ? It's off the cob but whole kernels.
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#2 Posted : Friday, January 31, 2014 2:01:08 PM(UTC)
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DD I don't think freezing would effect the starch; but I have no understanding of the chemistry. Probably need to damage/crush it first. :)
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#3 Posted : Saturday, February 01, 2014 2:43:48 AM(UTC)
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I was thinking of just cooking it then smashing with a potato masher or something to release the juices and then using some alpha amylase to convert the starch but who knows
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#4 Posted : Saturday, February 01, 2014 11:08:42 AM(UTC)
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DD the book I have on ethanol fuel just steeps the corn at way below boiling for quite a few hours then uses amylase to finish the job.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, February 01, 2014 11:57:27 AM(UTC)
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was that at about 145-148, Scotty? - I tired an experimental batch with fresh corn last July and I think I got it too hot when I was heating it...... Later as I started doing SF's, I learned about keeping things around 145-148 - Is why I asked
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#6 Posted : Saturday, February 01, 2014 12:13:02 PM(UTC)
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I'm trying a bit of it now and keeping the temp between 150 and 155 which is what the package of enzyme I have says. I used the potato masher to release the starches although I understand that whole kernel corn has some sugars in it when it is fresh and when dried looses the sugar. Thanx for the input guys
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#7 Posted : Saturday, February 01, 2014 3:03:34 PM(UTC)
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I think the steeping was about 170 and for 24 hours--then cool to proper enzyme temperature. im browsing the book for the exact info now
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#8 Posted : Saturday, February 01, 2014 3:13:18 PM(UTC)
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the 24 hours is for dried corn- I still think that crushing the moist corn a bit before steeping is better=- the higher temperature again was for dried corn. So I guess the 150+range is good for a few hours before cooling to enzyme temperature-- my word on this is close but not exact as I never did it.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, February 02, 2014 2:28:10 AM(UTC)
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...... I still think that crushing the moist corn a bit before steeping is better..
Aye, The recipe I followed suggested this as well - a light mash, not food processor mush, just mashin' the kernels some...
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#10 Posted : Monday, February 03, 2014 8:15:30 AM(UTC)
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I bet if you get it in your mind that the corn water is just a flavoring and add sugar to your wash recipe then ferment and still on the faster side, it would prolly push that corn flavor over in the finished product.....ya think???
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#11 Posted : Monday, February 03, 2014 10:19:08 AM(UTC)
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Hi DD, Are you going to be adding sugar to the wash or using all corn?
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#12 Posted : Monday, February 03, 2014 11:02:03 AM(UTC)
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I wasn't going to but the SG was a little low so I added 3 1/2 #s of sugar to get it up a bit. 1st batch is bubbling away
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