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#1 Posted : Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:07:46 AM(UTC)
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I have a 15.5 gallon keg and have purchased the Essential Extractor PSII column. I have it packed with the Raschig rings, rubber stopper up top drilled, with a digital thermometer. Cooling lines with valves hooked up on the way to the condenser as well as coolong inlets. Purchased a pump from Brewhaus that pumps 315 gallons per hour. Using a turkey fryer burner with a regulator of course. About to make my first run and want to know how long it takes to get up to temp for a 13 gallon batch that I have fermented? Also how long does it take to make a complete run with the 13 gallons? I want to do this right and not rush because I have about 8-9 hours that I can cook. Is it realistic to believe I can get a complete or good run in 8-9 hours? Also I want to check and see what temp I can start collecting safely. Im told at 173 degree F and stop about 180 or so not to get tails. Anyone out there have this setup and had good or bad luck with it? Thanks!
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:57:00 PM(UTC)
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Prior to posting I apologize for the bandwidth due to the large post. I welcome any comments or questions about this post considering it seems out of the ordinary in respect to yield.

A little chemistry 101 here, and I'm sure to get bashed over this, but....

Ethanol boils at 172.5 deg. F at SEA LEVEL. Altitude and barometric pressure will make a difference. The % yield that you get will be at it's highest at the beginning of your run, provided all other factors ,cooling water, purity of mash, etc., are equal. After a couple hours you will see the top of column temp ,TOC, raise. You are still getting ethanol ,ETOH, until around 204 deg. F TOC, albeit at a lower %. ,All this is either in a book I read, or on the web somewheres else, and if I have to defend my position by quoting it I imagine I can find the source if I look hard enough., When the % ETOH in the wash decreases, it will cause the temp at TOC to raise slightly ,less ETOH more H2O in the vapor,. My experience, this happens in 'steps'. I get 173 deg. for the most of the run, then jump to 179, 185, 192, 197, then 203 consecutively ,actual figures may vary due to atmospheric conditions, etc,. Realize that my % yield drops accordingly as well, to the tune of 50% when I get to the 197 range.

In practice I usually watch the TOC until it starts to raise above 180 and collect anything after that point up to 200 in a different jug. Sometimes I re-run it, other times I cut it all to 100 proof and drink it.

For example, my last run consisted of 10 gallons of wash from 25 lbs. sugar and Turbo 48. It took about 90 minutes to heat to the point of yield ,where it started to produce, that day 170.5 deg F,. I collected 6.5 quarts of 94% ETOH ,by hydrometer
20 deg C, during an 8 hour run using a turkey fryer burner and LPG. I did do a little 'experimenting' by running my cooling water through a copper coil submerged in an ice bath prior to the water going to my condenser, and it seemed to make a big difference. My return water ,after the condenser, was a constant 82 deg F for the duration that I had ice in the cooler. My TOC temp was 170.5 for the duration of the run, and as I stated earlier, my yield was 6.5 quarts
94% ,and I ain't blind yet.... :-, , I shut everything down instead of running up to the 204 deg. F to save a few $ on LPG. This is my 6th run with a 15.5 gal keg and homemade column, and as far as I can tell, my best run yet for tasteless-ness and odorless-ness. Vive la Turbo 48. Oh wait, I hate the French, they don't support the U. S. anymore.... Turbo 48 is da shizznit!

Laissez le bon temps roulette.....
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#3 Posted : Friday, August 11, 2006 3:10:09 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the reply! I am planning on following basically the same plan that you have. I am also planning on doing the ice bath thing for better cooloing to the condenser. Was wondering if the column you are using is similar to the on for sale on this site? Also I used 24 pounds of sugar to 13 gallons of water, was wondering if alcohol output will be low since this sounds a little low? Everything I have read says too much sugar gives off a bad flavor.
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#4 Posted : Monday, March 05, 2007 9:47:12 AM(UTC)
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Has anyone tried a combination of brown sugar and white sugar with a turbo yeast? Im looking for a sweeter taste instead of the bite of a total white sugar mash and final cook taste. thanks!
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:10:59 AM(UTC)
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The last batch of Rum had 14# brown sugar,2-3# white sugar 12oz molasses turbo yeast. The gravity was not high enough with the brown sugar so I added white to get 1.10. It tastes little sweeter than with all brown sugar not by much.
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