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Ran the PS II several times full reflux, the spirit run seems to be the ticket (turbo yeast), sugar run, 2 times charcoal filter, not bad. Trying a cracked corn, with sugar run, pot still mode. Used two rolls of the copper packing in tube, also running water through both the tower and condenser. One more run before I do a spirit run of that. Do I continue in pot still mode with water through tower and condenser or just though condenser only. And is two rolls of the copper scrubbers too much, (should I step down to one roll), any info is good,thanks.
Also anyone feel like the copper scrubbers have the potential to give final product bad taste? They are hard to clean, citrix acid helps more than anything else. Any info on the cleaning of the scrubbers or other methods are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance...
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if you're running in pot mode you don't run water to the column because you don't want reflux. You want more flavor to come thru. As far as cleaning the copper, citric acid in warm water is about the best. Rinse and let it dry
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Thanks, had a feeling I needed to drop the tower cooling in pot still mode, lots to learn.
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Not sure if this post will get noticed. But notice a little more off taste in the spirit run of 3 stripping runs with a corn/sugar wash than I would like. Adding distilled water to the spirit run to bring it down to approximately 40. Using a distillers yeast and cracked corn(Tractor Supply), I also decided to use a clearing agent, picked up local, apparently used frequently for wine making.
Anyone out there think the off taste may be from the clearing agent? Suspect I could get by without it.
Should I consider using a standard bread yeast?
I did the cleaning run and then the sacrificial run with old wine as instructed. Put maybe an additional 9 runs on it with nothing more than a water/vinegar rinse of the equipment. No further cleaning runs.
Is this enough cleaning, or do I reach a point where I need to perform another cleaning run? The equipment seems clean after washing, fwiw. No heavy odors.
Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated...
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Please describe the off taste. Are you making proper cuts in your run?you really don't need the clearing agent if just let it sit for a bit
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I have had difficulty in describing the off taste, maybe my palate isn't as good as it used to be, after reading quite a few articles on this, a good guess would be close to the cardboard thing I have heard about. Taking off the first 500 - 600 mil as fore and heads, then collecting 70% ABV till it drops to about 60% ABV, calling the rest tails. Edited by user Monday, December 05, 2016 10:16:06 PM(UTC)
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And thanks for the response, going to drop the clearing agent next time around
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If you are getting cardboard/wet dog taste,you are going to far into tails
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Edited my post above, I think I have been generous in my cuts. fwiw
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Are you running a UJSM type wash?
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8 pounds (4kg) flaked maize (in this recipe, you may substitute with cracked corn)
• 6 pounds (3.6kg) granulated sugar
• 1.5 teaspoons (7.5ml) gypsum
1 tsp ( teaspoon ) unit in a active dry yeast measure equals = into 2.83 g ( gram )
2 TBLS Yeast per 6.5 gallons?
1 TBLS Amylase
This is recipe w/notes
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Since you are not converting the corn by heating you really don't need the amylase. This type of wash is just a corn flavored sugarhead. Do you keep fermenter going for a few generations? And if you do, how much backseat are you adding
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I kept the backset from the first two runs (2 gallons) , but none of the actual corn, used new each time. Noted on the Amylase.
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Look up UJSM. You use backset to make it sour and to lower ph in ferment. I have gotten 15 ferments off same yeast, just have scoop a little corn off and replace. I would recomend looking this up and give it a go. Each run gets better.
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Back to your main question. Can pretty much bet the cardboard smell is from tails. Sounds like you did great job of cleaning your rig.
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Thanks for the responses tntc, will keep at it and use your responses in my learning, I am a rookie, good things come with time and experience. Hope to bump into you again in the near future. :-)
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I started out just like you, it is a great adventure to slowly improve and make a quality drop. Hang with it and read, you will definitely get there. Nice talking to you
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