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Offline catfish  
#1 Posted : Thursday, December 24, 2009 2:00:05 AM(UTC)
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let me start by saying hello to all you out there and introduce my self ,my name is catfish and I am just getting started in this whole new exciting hobby .I am starting out with my first wash and I put 30 lbs . of sugar in 15 gal. of water and added 2 packs of yeast . I just bought a turbo monster still (15 gal.) can someone please help me on where I go next with this ,I am only looking to make some basic sugar shine nothing more , is there a step by step process to follow .I tried a search on here but got lost a bit .thanks for any help and merry xmas .
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#2 Posted : Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:23:55 AM(UTC)
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"Welcome Catfish

You have come to the right place,a lot of very knowlegable people here.
I am not one of them so go to homedistiller.org.
They have loads of info.
That is homedistiller .org ,,,,not com.
Merry Christmas and enjoy
mj"
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#3 Posted : Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:00:07 AM(UTC)
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"Welcome Catfish,

First did you add some nutrients and yeast energizers to your wash. You need to if not. Justme posted a great MUM wash recipe about a week ago. Many rave its one of the cleanest and very best. Just scale it to your size ferment. Very cheap also."
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#4 Posted : Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:03:01 AM(UTC)
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I used 24 turbo yeast so I thought that was good enough .what should I add
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#5 Posted : Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:18:49 AM(UTC)
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"Catfish. You are good to go. Well as far as nutrients. It is really not a stackable yeast, because it works so fast, it can build up too much heat. so watch your heat for a bit. Cool or add ice if necessary. Other than that, it should work fine for you.

I am not familiar with your still. Did it not come with a manual?"
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#6 Posted : Friday, December 25, 2009 1:13:06 AM(UTC)
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no manul it just came ,lol. I got it from stil drinking .com . I checked everything today and it was fine ,I moved it to the slab floor to keep it cooler today .what temp should I cook at .I will be running it tommorow
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#7 Posted : Friday, December 25, 2009 2:45:56 AM(UTC)
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i haven't used that yeast. make sure you allow enough time to clear. i know you are anxious to do your first run. the first thing you should do is a water run to check for leaks. i have made just about every mistake you can. the biggest mistake was not learning how to make the proper cuts. i would advise you to buy some cheap gallon jugs of wine and run it through your still. run the wine with no packing in the column. collect everything. you can use the jugs for collecting your stripping run. add 1 tsp per gallon of baking soda(not baking powder)to your stripped product. when you have enough product to do a spirit run get back to us.i went on stilldrinking.com but i didn't see the turbo monster. your temp doesnt matter on the stripping run. you want to collect around 78c depending on your altitude. read up on clearing and how to make cuts. enjoy your new still and welcome to the hobby.

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#8 Posted : Friday, December 25, 2009 5:06:36 AM(UTC)
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can someone explain what a stripping run is ,I thought I run this through one time and that is it . I was thinking I put the wash in the keg and out comes moonshine ,lol.
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#9 Posted : Friday, December 25, 2009 5:28:01 AM(UTC)
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here is a link that will answer most of your questions. http://homedistiller.org/ . i am not trying to discourage you from posting questions here. try looking thru the archives here also.
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#10 Posted : Friday, December 25, 2009 5:30:57 AM(UTC)
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"Catfish,

The advice of Justme is spot on.

You can do it in one run. However, by doing a stripping run first, you will get much better final product. And in the long run will actually save you time.

Detune, take all packing out, and no reflux. Run your wash or mash as fast as your condensor will handle it. Collect everything, no cuts. Store it with a tbs or 2 of baking soda/ gal. Make 2 or 3 stripping runs, combine them, dilute to 40% ABV and run your spirit runs with proper cuts."
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#11 Posted : Friday, December 25, 2009 2:03:15 PM(UTC)
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"Thats it. MW2 is spot on.

Strippping is merely a way of shedding the bulk amount of water from your wash.

When doing so, your next run (after diluting) will be a crisper, cleaner run that will be much easier to evaluate your cuts.

""Stripping runs"" are usually full power runs and your ""spirit runs"" are slower to get better separation for a fuller ""heart"" section.

Don't forget to toss your fores."
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#12 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:25:24 AM(UTC)
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"thanks guys I am starting to understand this .thank you again for the help .I thought my ferment was gonna be done today but it isnt ,it is still bubbling like crazy so I am gonna give it more time ,I gonna do a water run today and see what happens so I can learn . here is a pic of the still I got .
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#13 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:55:21 AM(UTC)
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"Oh for heavans sake catfish, be careful with that glass thumper.

Can you bi-pass that thing while doing your test run?

Do not use that if you are heating with propane.

Please keep a fire extinguisher handy and wear safety glasses.

Do not let the kiddiewinkles near that unit while running with glass.

Good luck and please be careful."
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#14 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:04:18 AM(UTC)
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lol, no good ? dont think the heat will get that hot all the way up there. I asked the guy at the shop and he said he sold 100"s of them and never had any trouble . only one way to find out .
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#15 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:25:33 AM(UTC)
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morning catfish, turbos always take longer to run than what the label says. it can also be the co2 being released. have you checked your sg? do you have a hydrometer and a alcoholmeter? sometimes the ferment time varies by the amount of sugar? check the label. remember that you need to let it settle. i know you are anxious to play. do you have a racking cane?use the search feature and type in just_me and check my posts. there are few that might be of help. Mtnwalker2 knows a lot more than me. so does Wade. i have been real impressed with Robpur posts.i wish i had his understanding of the technical side and his easygoing ways. i have left out a lot of people sorry.you can get free fermenters at restaurants or bakeries. keep away from any that have contained pickle. when i first started i collected wine bottles from bars and friends. you don't want to store your stripped product in plastic. nothing over 50% should be in plastic. i use sterilite storage containers as fermenters. You are were i was a few years ago. thats all i can think of now.

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#16 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:26:24 AM(UTC)
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"Not trying to pontificate but,,,,,

Of course the fellow at the brewshop (who makes a living selling all things brew) is giving you the thumbs up on that glass.


And it will get hot enough for that low budget glass to crack.
Not to mention the banging and clanging of break down and cleanup.


Good luck and be alert.

L.T.

What is your heat source?"
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#17 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:30:50 AM(UTC)
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turkey frier for heat ,I am gonna try it with water and see what happens to the glass ,I will let ya know if she breaks .if she does I will make something to replace it .thanks for the help guys
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#18 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:45:14 AM(UTC)
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do you have a hose to your collection jar? my 2nd still was similar to yours without the thumper and some times it would surge and spew out distillate which could be a major problem with propane. mtnwalker2 puts his collection jars in a pan of water i believe. i cant stress this enough don't leave your still when it is running. we aren't trying to scare you or discourage you. i learned to respect safety issues on the flight deck of the Nimitz. it is easier to avoid scars than live with them. the easiest way to get in trouble is to have the fire dept come to your house.

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#19 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:04:53 AM(UTC)
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"Surging is common with liebigs.

Cooling water inlet at the bottom.Cooling water outlet at the top.

And the secondary tub to rest your primary collection vessel in is kind of a safety requisite.



That thumper is too small for your boiler also.

Thumpers are typically sized 1/2 to 1/3 the size of the primary boiler.

That thumper will likely flood quickly and create too much back pressure."
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#20 Posted : Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:23:13 AM(UTC)
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"Yes sir. With propane it is almost imperative to have your collection jar in a pot with some water. Especially with that thumper bouncing it.

That looks like a mason jar? If so you can get ss containers that will fit that lid. I do a lot of canning. Occasionally, one will break. Even a few in just hot water bath canning. That would be a bomb directly over the fire.

Pint O Shine, the owner of artisan distiller group, who has been doing this hobby for almost 30 years got severe burns, and almost burnt his house down from a freak accident.

Be careful and have fun."
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