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Offline fiedg  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:03:16 PM(UTC)
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"Hello All
I have a question about my sugar wash??
I have been using turbo yeast and suger for my wash and it has always taken about 7 days to stop bubbling out the air lock
But now it is winter here so I am using a heat belt on the bucket and it is staying about 72* to 76* but it has been going for 9 days now and still bubbling away???
Did I do something wrong????? Or after 9 days should I just stop it???
I have been using a little one gal. pot still....But I ordered and now have a new 8.5 gal. reflux still and this is driving me nuts...I want to use my new still

Thanks to all"
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:54:39 AM(UTC)
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"Cold will definitely slow down your ferment.

Taste it (don't swollow). How much sweetness remains? If it's dry (like dry wine), it's done.

Maybe Co2 traped under the trub is escaping (maybe not)?

If you can't stand the wait any longer then run it. Just don't overcharge the boiler."
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#3 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:52:23 AM(UTC)
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"THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY LWTCS
I still am having trouble this has never happen to me before
After 10 days it was still bubbling away so I put in my two part settling agent and tested the wash this morning and it shows 0% alcoholl??
Any help here
Thank"
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#4 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:13:57 AM(UTC)
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What are you testing with? If you are taking a reading with your hydrometer, then the 0% is the Potential Alcohol. In other words, the remaining potential is 0%. With a sugar wash and turbo yeast you should get below 0% / 1.000 SG, but it can also depend on many factors.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:16:37 AM(UTC)
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"Hi
I am using a test jar and a alcohol meter. My sugar wash has alway tested about 14 to 16% alcohol when it is done in about 7 days, but the time it just kept going and going so I stop it and tested it and the alcohol meter read less than 0% acolhol about -5%???
Thanks for the reply"
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#6 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:06:52 AM(UTC)
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Taste it......
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#7 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:19:13 AM(UTC)
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Taste it......


Ditto. And if after a qt. or 2 you get blasted, you know its ready to run. HA!

Just kidding of course. But taste will tell you.

You are useing the wrong instrument. Thats only for distilled product. Get a vineometer sp. thats made for fermenting. Or just taste it."
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#8 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:43:31 PM(UTC)
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Ditto. And if after a qt. or 2 you get blasted, you know its ready to run. HA!

Just kidding of course. But taste will tell you.

You are useing the wrong instrument. Thats only for distilled product. Get a vineometer sp. thats made for fermenting. Or just taste it.


Instruments are always good to have to make reference while talkin bout likker makin. (example)My wash was this, so I did that. My sprit comes off the still at such and such if I keep my cooling bucket at such and such. And so forth and so on.

But if one only depends on their instruments, then they never get to understand their likker. For all the help the instruments offer, an equal amount of handycap must be endured.

Try to wean yourself from your instruments when ever posssible. Or at the very least, cross check your instruments with Taste smell and feel.

I fully appreciate the ruflux guy's needing those measurements do to the nature of their equipment.Wink"
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#9 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:04:43 PM(UTC)
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That is perfectly normal. An alcoholmeter measures only distilled spirits. The meter is very sensitive. Any unfermented sugar, carbohydrates, etc., increase the density of this liquid, causing the meter to float higher, giving an incorrect low reading.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:14:47 PM(UTC)
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"Yes, I totally agree about the distilling run, but when working with the ferments, the OG and FG are important especially if doing all grain mashes and brandies. Not imperative i agree, but dang sight easier to know for sure where you are at. Is ferment totally finished for what you are makeing. Some like some sugars left, and others want totally dry. Did your mash work? Etc. the hydrometer for wines is a good tool to have. If you are really experianced taste will tell, especially for neutral washes. Can work for brandies and grains also, but that takes a very discerning and educated nose and taste.

What the heck, they are cheap."
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#11 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:45:26 PM(UTC)
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"Thank for all the replys
I did taste it and it is still sweet but I figured after 10 days it would have some alcohol in it? so I ran it though the (still knot a drop) DON'T NO WANT WENT WRONG...But I though it out and put up a new batch and put it in the house in a warm spot, so I will see want happens now
As far as the hydrometer goes it is the same one I have been using for the last 6 months and it has alway showed about 10% to 14%, but -0% on this batch???
It may not be right on because the wash I am doing should be 14% to 20% but it does give me an idea. I know it reads low but not 0%
Thanks again Guys
Ps the only thing I can come up with is it was to cold or the yeast is bad. The batch I just put on is with new yeast and in the house if it comes out ok I will do another batch with the old yeast in the house then I will know"
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#12 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:03:30 PM(UTC)
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get a wine hydrometer for a few bucks and know for sure where you are at. Ferments can stall or not start. You would know, and could compensate. Also, you would know exactly how much alch. you have within reach and have an idea for the cuts. Saves a lot of waste and time.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:24:47 PM(UTC)
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"Will do
Thank you"
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#14 Posted : Sunday, January 24, 2010 12:29:44 AM(UTC)
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i'm new to this process but i have been making wine for over 10 years and have won a bunch of awards for it. it seems your killing off you yeast to soon buy trying to get to much alcohol at once. try feeding it. it's real simple. here is the best way to get high alcohol out of sugar. 1 get a good wine yeast for about 3.00 dollars a pack the highest alchol wine yeast you can get is vierka-wine-yeast it's made in germany it will get between 20 - 27% alcohol start off with less sugar say enough to get 11% then when your hydrometer reading drops low add more sugar and water in small batches. till you reach the alcohol level you want. it takes time but it works. i got 26% alcohol in wine buy doing this it takes time don't rush good alcohol takes time.if you want step by step just ask.i will give you the exact amount of stuff needed.
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#15 Posted : Sunday, January 24, 2010 2:45:37 AM(UTC)
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"Thanks for the info mrgreedy
I will try it"
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