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"hi... i recently moved to another city... soonest i mix ingredients my mash start foaming and bubbling...it last for 2-3 hrs then stop......i am not loosing mash over this and distillation works good too..no problems i never had this problem before i am using tap water+sugar+yeast i was wondering what may cause this foaming and bubbling?  thank you gizy"
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"Foaming and bubbling is good. It means your yeast is happy and feasting on sugar.
Foaming is likely the yeast colony growing and becoming completely hydrated. And bubbling is likely Co2 being expelled by the yeast as the colony devours the sugar.
You should also have some kind of yeast nutrient added to your wash to ensure the yeast remain healthy through the course of the ferment. Are you using a turbo yeast perhaps?
Although Dr. Stone recommends that one can ferment successfully with only water,sugar and yeast.
If your activity stops after only 2 or 3 hours, I wonder if your ph is too high?
or not enough nutrients to ensure a complete ferment.
Where do you have your fermentor set up? Is it a cold location?"
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"you ask:You should also have some kind of yeast nutrient added to your wash to ensure the yeast remain healthy through the course of the ferment. Are you using a turbo yeast perhaps?
***No i never use any nutrient in my wash.
No i am using a bakery east.
you ask:Where do you have your fermentor set up? Is it a cold location?
***I keep it in a warm hot water tank room. (after foaming is finish)
for the first 3-4hrs i keep them in a buth
But in my old house i had the same setup for years and never had this foaming problem there...here it start from the first batch.
I noticed that the tap water is worst quality and is harder then in my old place.
Can be this a reason of this reaction?
thank you for replaying
best regards
gizy"
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"Gizy,
First, you will get much better ferments and better final quality adding nutrients and adjusting ph if needed. Stressed yeast produce off flavors, or sometimes will just die.
Then, I think the first thing I would do would be to get a good water filter. RO or at least an activated carbon filter. Are you boiling or letting your water sit for 24 hours or more to dispell chlorine. Is your water flourinated? As a check, buy some decent spring water and do 2 washes side by side and compare. Wouldn't want to drink that water perhaps, at least without cleaning it up. Get some PH strips and check its PH.
Just my 2 cents worth."
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Hows that for bubbles? LWTCS attached the following image(s):  Metamucil Ferment001.jpg (58kb) downloaded 2 time(s).You cannot view/download attachments. Try to login or register.
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" Originally Posted by: LWTCS  Hows that for bubbles? HE, He. When I first read this, I could only picture someone takeing a bubble bath in bath tub gin! But speaking of bubbles, the Death Wish Wheat Germ, DWWG recipe I will only ferment in the shower or bathtub. It almost always foams out massively. If you use an airlock it will clog and explode like a pressure cooker. You will spend all day cleaning up the shit. Don't ask how I know. Even so, its one of my favorites. Even the finished beer is really tasty."
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"This pic was taken from a 5 liter experimental batch for just that reason.
Haven't had one blow on me yet (knock on wood). And thank goodness as the missus is not really on board with all the likker makin and such."
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Seen some huge (2 or 3 inch) bubbles produced from a rum wash put together with dunder pit liquid.
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" Originally Posted by: LWTCS Seen some huge (2 or 3 inch) bubbles produced from a rum wash put together with dunder pit liquid. Haven't tried it yet, but in the '70's was traveling with Leon Tolstoey and my dad. They sold wetting agents for a lot of things, one was for beer. Leon was the pres. of Amarican Brewmasters Assn. at the time. Adding it would keep the head of a beer within reason when pouring or out of a keg. Very small bubbles, not the huge ones where a gallon of foam flowed before the mug was filled. I also read where adding some oil will help prevent foaming. I always add oil when cooking beans or especially black eyed peas in my pressure cooker to stop foaming as can be a real danger. Many claim it will work well on that rum wash as well."
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"Thats interesting.
Me,,, I like staring at the ferment activity. Kinda like staring in to a camp fire:)"
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" Originally Posted by: LWTCS Thats interesting.
Me,,, I like staring at the ferment activity. Kinda like staring in to a camp fire:) Aye me too. Especially in a glass carboy with a UJSSM or other grain going. Its a constant volcanic eruption and snowfall. I keep one in the liveing room just for pleasure. Kids loved it as much as I did when they were growing up, and now time for the grandkids. Christmas snow all year long. Special part of my distilling enjoyment."
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" Originally Posted by: mtnwalker2 Haven't tried it yet, but in the '70's was traveling with Leon Tolstoey and my dad. They sold wetting agents for a lot of things, one was for beer. Leon was the pres. of Amarican Brewmasters Assn. at the time. Adding it would keep the head of a beer within reason when pouring or out of a keg. Very small bubbles, not the huge ones where a gallon of foam flowed before the mug was filled.
I also read where adding some oil will help prevent foaming. I always add oil when cooking beans or especially black eyed peas in my pressure cooker to stop foaming as can be a real danger. Many claim it will work well on that rum wash as well. Do you use a plastic tube going into a gallon jug with a little water in it to keep from foaming over like you might if using a regular air lock. I've been doing that for the first couple of days until it settles down. I've had a inch or so increase in the jug from foam."
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