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"hi...
this is a first time when i use turbo 48hrs yeast in my mash...
8kg sugar and water..thinking of keeping this for 5-6 days
my question is:
do i have to use clearing agent on the end?
thank you"
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" Originally Posted by: gizy  hi...
this is a first time when i use turbo 48hrs yeast in my mash...
8kg sugar and water..thinking of keeping this for 5-6 days
my question is:
do i have to use clearing agent on the end?
thank you gizy, FYI, thats a sugar wash. A mash is a cooked then converted grain run with enzymes. Now, if you want to speed things up, then use a clearing agent. May take 2 days to clear. Also, setting it outside into cold weather if you have it immediately after fermentation is complete will speed things up. Bring it in to warm and add clearing agent or just wait till clear. Best to wait till the wash is really clear for best results. Get an extra fermenter to give you more time. Cheers"
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" Originally Posted by: mtnwalker2 gizy, FYI, thats a sugar wash. A mash is a cooked then converted grain run with enzymes.
Now, if you want to speed things up, then use a clearing agent. May take 2 days to clear. Also, setting it outside into cold weather if you have it immediately after fermentation is complete will speed things up. Bring it in to warm and add clearing agent or just wait till clear. Best to wait till the wash is really clear for best results. Get an extra fermenter to give you more time.
Cheers thank you Sir for the lesson in terminology...i never used this words (wash..mash) they very close..:) i always call them in my language ... (zacier) and finally product (bimber)...i am learning every day..so thank you again re: main question: you give me a few option..will definitely try one of them.. best regards"
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" Originally Posted by: gizy thank you Sir for the lesson in terminology...i never used this words (wash..mash) they very close..:) i always call them in my language ... (zacier) and finally product (bimber)...i am learning every day..so thank you again
re: main question:
you give me a few option..will definitely try one of them..
best regards since this is your first wash run, let me make a few suggestions to make this a good tasting run for you. First, allow it to totally clear. Especially with a turbo as there are lots of nutrients in it for a quick ferment. When clear, strip it, ie, pot distill it as fast as your rig can run, no packing or reflux or cuts. Just collect everything. This cleans it a bunch and concentrates the alchohol from water a bit. Add some bakeing soda, not bakeing powder. Say 3 heaping tablespoons, then do a spirit run and collect in small increments. Many posts by many people here lately. 300 ml each jar for the whole run. cover each with something like toilet paper or coffee filter to allow to air for 24 hours. Taste, and smell each sample. Only choose the sweetest and cleanest. Don't be stingy. The rest go into a large glass carbouy to save as faints. No loss, you will redistill them again when you have enough and regsain the good spirits still there. so only take the best from your run. If any off taste and oder, put into glass jars with activated carbon for several weeks and shake and air often. You have to first cut it down to at least 100 proof or less before sitting on carbon. You can also buy a filter, which is faster but a real PITA. Every run you make you will learn something and it will get better. Cheers."
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" Originally Posted by: gizy hi...
this is a first time when i use turbo 48hrs yeast in my mash...
8kg sugar and water..thinking of keeping this for 5-6 days
my question is:
do i have to use clearing agent on the end?
thank you If you plan to re-distill, then the clearing agents aren't neccessarily needed but do help. If this is your time with a sugar wash, I say try it to get a feel for how it works. Also the 48hr will sometime ferment away for over a week. Don't clear it until it stopps bubbling. Using a clearing agent can add up to 3 days on top of that in warm weather. mtnwalker2 gives good advice - get another fermenter going and take your time experimenting. Also try re-distilling. Washes can make some different tasting spirits based on how clear the wash prior to cooking, but running them again cleans them quite nicely. Good luck."
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Keith18,
Just trying to learn some terminology.
You said "if you plan to re-distill".
Does that mean planning to do a stripping run and a spirit run?
How does the second fermenter help?
Thanks!
Steve
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" Originally Posted by: steveb Keith18,
How does the second fermenter help?
Thanks!
Steve The second fermenter will allow you to cycle more product into your rotation. If your up and running on all cylinders, your cycle should/could look like this: 1. Start new ferment (fermenter #2). 2. wash/mash ready to rack (fermenter #1). 3. something clearing (carboy #2) 4. something ready to charge the still (carboy #1). This way you always have something ready for the next step."
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" Originally Posted by: LWTCS The second fermenter will allow you to cycle more product into your rotation.
If your up and running on all cylinders, your cycle should/could look like this:
1. Start new ferment (fermenter #2).
2. wash/mash ready to rack (fermenter #1).
3. something clearing (carboy #2)
4. something ready to charge the still (carboy #1).
This way you always have something ready for the next step. Perfect advice. this way you can do stripping runs and in half the time do spirit runs, and get great results on your finished product. Soon you will have 3 fermenters going. Cheers."
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I see. Great approach. Thanks!
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