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Offline Chore Chunk  
#1 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:14:20 PM(UTC)
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Reading this forum it seems that it is a consensus that diluting the finished product to 40% for either oaking, carbon filtering, or just drinking is the rule. I have been a Wild Turkey 101 drinker for the last 30 years but gave that up a while back as brown liquor is the devil. I switched to store vodka in '05 and my own 190 proof white dog in '08 but have never diluted it, I mix 2oz with ice and 8 ounces of coke or lemonade, isn't this mixing doing the same as dilution but just saving on storage space?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:26:04 PM(UTC)
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"I much prefer my drink a bit proofy also. I use my mixer to dilute for my personal enjoyment.

Dilute or not. It's your choice. Just be careful with any likker that you gift.

The people don't really understand.

We are not handcuft to an industry definition or standard"
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#3 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:49:06 PM(UTC)
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I much prefer my drink a bit proofy also. I use my mixer to dilute for my personal enjoyment.

Dilute or not. It's your choice. Just be careful with any likker that you gift.

The people don't really understand.

We are not handcuft to an industry definition or standard


ABSOLUTE! Make a very pure 95% + and then dilute to 100 proof and put with carbon, and then give to unsuspecting friends!!!! they will think they are drinking 25% till it hits. ge careful in gifts without warnings. else, dilute it down to safer levels."
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#4 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:46:36 PM(UTC)
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"In almost 3 years I have only had 3 visits, my extremely aged parents, my overly religious brother, and a pair of drunkards from Florida. The closest brick and mortar person I know is 5 hours away. There is no gifting as there is no knowledge. I go to the store once every two months to hone my speaking skills as I usually revert to dog speak by then.

I know what you mean about giving the unsuspecting the shine and they were to drink it at a fast rate, it could give them alcohol poisoning, happened to me once and it was scary. At 250lbs I have more blood then the average person and can pack away more alcohol but a 150lb person could get very ill trying to keep up with me. I guess I could be wrong about the weight, 250lbs is probably the norm in the USA and what was once considered a linebackers size can now comfortably disappear in the crowd at the walmart bakery counter."
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#5 Posted : Friday, June 18, 2010 8:15:13 AM(UTC)
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I think most times with white lightnin -- most folks think we only drink it from the jar, and with that in mind it should be cut. Now if your mixin it like a mixed drink, that is cut. You know instead of pullin on the jug (which is straight up) makin a mixed drink it is cut -rum and coke-orange and vodka-crown and 7. Damn i'm gettin thirsty. Just an opinion.
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#6 Posted : Friday, June 18, 2010 2:24:56 PM(UTC)
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"Rum center cut. dilute to 65%. then age with some flavor profile enhancers (chared oak, dried fruit, orange zest, black tea, peper corns and so forth and so on). Ummmm.

Been trying to get my new build dialed in. It's an in-line quad thumping unit that I'll be charging each thumper with Rum dunder. So it'll be proofy as hell and the distillate will get re-charged with flavor at each level."
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#7 Posted : Friday, June 18, 2010 3:42:39 PM(UTC)
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Rum center cut. dilute to 65%. then age with some flavor profile enhancers (chared oak, dried fruit, orange zest, black tea, peper corns and so forth and so on). Ummmm.

Been trying to get my new build dialed in. It's an in-line quad thumping unit that I'll be charging each thumper with Rum dunder. So it'll be proofy as hell and the distillate will get re-charged with flavor at each level.


Wooo Hooo! Never heard of a quad thumper. I've heard a single one singing away in the woods. Please, please, please make a sound recording and post or send to me when in action. I would think it would be a band all into itself. Perhaps if each thumper were just a little differnent in size, different notes?? Thinking my African Gray will go nuts with it.

They don't call them thumpers without a reason.

Should produce some extremely great stuff. Looking forward to hear how it goes."
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#8 Posted : Friday, June 18, 2010 10:53:41 PM(UTC)
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"Some pics

The 4"" column section is actually a stack of three thumpers with overflow drains.

The pot a top the boiler is my first thumper. All of the thumpers work off a bubble cap principal.

The clam shell/ufo looking condenser at the top acts as a dephlagamator and will allow me to put the unit into 100% reflux and load the thumpers with liberated alcho with out collecting."
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#9 Posted : Saturday, June 19, 2010 2:03:34 AM(UTC)
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LWTCS - What a rig! I'm switching over to a keg boiler, did you use the std keg fitting or did you weld in a larger tri-clamp fitting?
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#10 Posted : Saturday, June 19, 2010 3:17:32 AM(UTC)
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"I would love to hear a thumper.I looked on the net to no avail.

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#11 Posted : Saturday, June 19, 2010 3:32:31 AM(UTC)
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LWTCS, When you get some time, and perhaps well oiled could you explain the method of operation. It certainly looks impressive.
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#12 Posted : Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:18:06 AM(UTC)
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"Ratflinger,
As you can see, I have a buch of weight hanging off of my keg. As such, I felt like it would be really important to have the strongest, most stable conections. I welded a 2"" SS (schedule 80) nipple to the factory connector.

I don't have any tri clamp parts, but I am a big fan as that solution is very handy. Just not a good fit for my purposes.

This is the flow diagram for the Thump Tower. The larger pot below the tower works on the same principal, but is only a single chamber.

The dephlag at the top is a cooling management device that introduces a cooler vapor path at the top of the tower that will help additional water vapor condense and fall back into the top thump chamber thus allowing a more pure vapor to enter the product condenser.

The thing that makes this unit different from a column is that the reflux does not fall back to the primary boiler. The reflux falls only as far as the top chamber. With this process, the goal is a potstilled flavor profile that has a good crisp alcohol bite.

I have yet to master or become fully intamate with how much flexibility this unit has. For the sake of experiment (as I do not typically shoot for nuetural), on my next run I will collect fores and heads, then put the unit into 100% reflux mode for an hour or so and try to liberate and ""load"" all of the usable alcohol into the thumpers before take off.

An other advantage is that the take off rate is very very fast.

And finally,,, by loading all the chambers with flavored liquid and more judicious use of the dephlag,,,I hope to render a very smooth (proper) rum."
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#13 Posted : Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:26:45 AM(UTC)
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The first conceptual drawing of my first in-line thumper
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#14 Posted : Saturday, June 19, 2010 8:04:11 AM(UTC)
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The first conceptual drawing of my first in-line thumper


What a great concept. Twould work fantastic for a continious still.

Perhaps if you had a drain at the bottom, and a refill valve at the top, you could easily recharge that keg and continue to use the charged and flavored chambers? Seems it would take a lot of mash or wash or brandy to recharge those thumpers each raw run? Seems each run would be better in flavor and more of the good stuff coming across. Seems to me, if the boiler were drained, or almost, it could all sit for several days till you are ready to run another batch?

Just thinking without any real knowledge.

Totally different concept of thumpers than I am used to. More like plates, but like a thumper also.

Do they sing? Thumpy, Thumpy, Thumpy????

Thanks for shareing."
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#15 Posted : Saturday, June 19, 2010 8:49:35 AM(UTC)
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"The concept occured to me after watching my three peice bubble cap air lock

The ""Humper"" (after the boiler) does have a return line.

The entire tower only holds a total of 1.3 liters of liquid. The ""Humper"" prolly holds 2 liters. Ordinarily, one would size a traditional thumper so that it does not risk flooding. So the paracidic boiler/thumper would be much larger. But with the in-line concept and a return line to the next lower level, flooding is not an issue.

The bubble cap (I call it the float) on the ""Humper thumper"" is not afixed. It is a big heavy peice of 3"" square tubing that just sits on the ""Humper"" floor.
When she's a commin to temp she does a little dancing. Sounds like an old school steam engine.

The bubble caps within the tower are afixed and make no noise other than some solder flakes that clink around when she's in a nice mellow rythem. Kinda like boiling chips.

Thing bout the continous stills is makin cuts."
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#16 Posted : Saturday, June 19, 2010 8:53:02 AM(UTC)
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The inside of the "Humper" an how the bubble cap sits down over top of the fill tube.
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#17 Posted : Saturday, June 19, 2010 10:37:29 AM(UTC)
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The inside of the ""Humper"" an how the bubble cap sits down over top of the fill tube.


Wow. You seem to have it down pat. No way could I match your metalsmithing skills. I will stick to my high capacity column where I can choose from 2 to 10 plates for taste or better than everclear. And still get a gallon / hour return. I do think your operation would give better flavored return though. Mash, sour mash and rums. Others also like tequila and brandies. Keep us in touch how the produce."
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, September 07, 2010 5:47:48 PM(UTC)
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I have the easy still and am anxious to make some rum. I'm new at this and would apreciate any advice or recipes. Thanks!
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#19 Posted : Friday, September 10, 2010 1:56:08 PM(UTC)
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"Posted on your other querry thread.

This still is functioning better than planned.

This still makes 100% ""pure"" rum........No such thing as pure rumTongue"
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#20 Posted : Saturday, September 11, 2010 7:00:56 PM(UTC)
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The people don't really understand.
We are not handcuffed to an industry definition or standard.


I think that should be your signature. It's a great saying, considering the topics on this site. :)"
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