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Offline scotty  
#1 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:12:23 AM(UTC)
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"In a water heater, corrosion is protected by a glass (actually a porcelain enamel) lining in the steel tank, and
the use of auxiliary anode rods. Porcelain enamel begins as a blend of minerals mixed in a manner to form liquid
slurry. This slurry, resembling a thin mud, is sprayed onto the inner surfaces of the water heaters. During the
manufacturing process, the inside water tank and both the top and bottom heads are sprayed with a slurry of glass
material. After the tanks are sprayed, they are fired at very high temperatures - generally ranging from 1500 to 1600
degrees Fahrenheit. While in the furnace, the porcelain bonds with the metal to create more than a coating. It forms
an inseparable compound merging the chemical makeup of the porcelain glass lining and metal resulting in a new,
chemically unique, finish. This glass
provides a long life to the steel tank;
otherwise, the tank would fail or corrode
in a relatively short time. Every glass lined
water tank, no matter how carefully it is
manufactured, has some bare metal
exposed. This is due to the inability to
effectively cover sharp corners and the
radius around the fittings. There is a
chance that a crack or chip in the porcelain
lining will allow the water to come in
contact with the steel tank. Over time,
water, a universal solvent that becomes
more aggressive with temperature, slowly
dissolves the interior tank lining. This will
create conditions for corrosion, pinholes in
the tank

I found this on a RHEEM WEBSITE

http://www.houseinspections.com/PDF_LINKS/anode%20Rod.pdf"
Offline mtnwalker2  
#2 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:38:06 AM(UTC)
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"That is why they now add a sacrificial rod at the top. It will corrode instead of the tank and the elements also. It also protects against explosive gases building up.

Same process they now use when burying steel tanks for propane and others."
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#3 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:20:01 AM(UTC)
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That is why they now add a sacrificial rod at the top. It will corrode instead of the tank and the elements also. It also protects against explosive gases building up.

Same process they now use when burying steel tanks for propane and others.


well MW im thinking of folks using old hot water tanks for boilers."
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#4 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:00:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: scotty Go to Quoted Post
well MW im thinking of folks using old hot water tanks for boilers.


Yes Scotty, there have been many that have gone that route, and I have actually been thinking of doing the same for winter time indoor use. Since it is of short duration for the run and not months and years of constant agression I have not heard of any corrosion problems. The suicide rod at the top and the inlet tube which is plastic needs removed as well as the overheat and overpressure relief valve, and all plugged. The bottom drain valve needs replacing with copper or best a ss ball valve. Thermostats to the elements bypassed and seperate power to each. Lower one with a controller or switched to 120 with control depending on its watts. Have heard of no reports in 8 years or more of ferric contamination or body failure. Easy to drain, flood and wash. I think I would only use this for neutral runs, but some do use it for flavored grain runs if well cleared or filtered. an excellent insulated boiler. If the damn rains continue here may have to use it in the summer also.

Themildewedbrandymaker."
Offline scotty  
#5 Posted : Thursday, September 30, 2010 11:24:24 AM(UTC)
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"Lots of rain here too MW-- i guess the old heaters would be taboo if there were any problems. It just concerned me--
i will get a bigger boiler myself next year if i can convince brewhaus to make 25 gallon boilers((3 7 gallon batches at one time. now i do single runs-- i didnt get a bigger one this time because i didnt want to spend $$ elsehere.

Right now, a 3 inch high capacity tower is in line if i ever get the gizmos finished BigGrin




Originally Posted by: mtnwalker2 Go to Quoted Post
Yes Scotty, there have been many that have gone that route, and I have actually been thinking of doing the same for winter time indoor use. Since it is of short duration for the run and not months and years of constant agression I have not heard of any corrosion problems. The suicide rod at the top and the inlet tube which is plastic needs removed as well as the overheat and overpressure relief valve, and all plugged. The bottom drain valve needs replacing with copper or best a ss ball valve. Thermostats to the elements bypassed and seperate power to each. Lower one with a controller or switched to 120 with control depending on its watts. Have heard of no reports in 8 years or more of ferric contamination or body failure. Easy to drain, flood and wash. I think I would only use this for neutral runs, but some do use it for flavored grain runs if well cleared or filtered. an excellent insulated boiler. If the damn rains continue here may have to use it in the summer also.

Themildewedbrandymaker.
"
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#6 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 3:43:01 AM(UTC)
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I've seen a lot of used water heaters and they always have a rusty looking sludge at the bottom. It seems like it would be difficult to clean between runs. I'd worry about the temp/pressure relief valve if you'll be building any pressure. Check out the Mythbusters video of exploding water heaters...
Offline scotty  
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 5:59:25 AM(UTC)
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"Speaking just for myself. Ill wait till brewhaus offers larger boilers. I'm still knee deep in electrifying my new brewhays 7.5 gallon premium unit.
I havent even finished insulating it yet ALSO my dual voltage relay box was finally tested today. It getting there

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then im trying to add a remote box for cold smoking

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NO MORE NEW CRAZY IDEAS FOR AT LEAST 2 WEEKS LOL"
Offline cals  
#8 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 10:28:40 AM(UTC)
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"Hey Scotty. It's a year now, so you must have finishing electrifying your boiler. How do you do it?

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