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#1 Posted : Monday, February 26, 2007 7:09:00 AM(UTC)
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Hey,
It's 11am my time so 2pm your time. If you get this in the next half hour, could you send me your advice? I'm about to distil off the first fermentation of the UJSM in my valved reflux still. Should I keep my copper mesh packing in or run it without packing - more like a pot still.
Hoping you wander by your computor soon.
Yours,
PJ Lily
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#2 Posted : Monday, February 26, 2007 8:39:36 AM(UTC)
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John,
So with my buddy over I decided to go for it. What I did in the end was to keep my copper mesh packing in, but to not reflux it at all. What'ya think...
Always looking forward to what you have to advize,
PJ Lily
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#3 Posted : Monday, February 26, 2007 9:41:37 AM(UTC)
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PJ,

Sorry I wasn't here to respond, but was out with my son. He's getting his contracters liscense, and wanted some help in prepareing a bid.

Running with the packing is perfectly fine.

Just for curiosity, did you recheck the TG or the taste test?

Want to hear how your final results turn out. I usually cheat and save a cup or so of the very middle, cut it down and sample to see how the flavor profile is developeing. You can always dump whats left over of that ,if any, back in for the next run. curiousity killed the cat, or at least made him stagger around a bit. Collect all the tails you can, or as much as reasonable. You can back calculate close to what your final ABV was.

A buddy to share it with makes it twice as much fun.

Congratulations!
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#4 Posted : Monday, February 26, 2007 1:01:49 PM(UTC)
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Hey John,
Did your son get the bid?
I did check the TG and it was below 1.00 in each bucket, so along with the taste test of sour I decided it was time to distil.
FLAVOR PROFILING. Jes, wee thut dat wuz a graat ideah. Und sumhow der wuz still sum left over, zo kool.
In the end I had two quarts from six gallons that I will add to the next fermentation.
And we practiced porch stories.
Thanks, and a glass was raised to you.
Yours,
PJ Lily
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#5 Posted : Monday, February 26, 2007 4:02:08 PM(UTC)
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PJ,

Yes he did, and with great expectations on both parties.


Sounds like you had a wonderful time. Whooplah!

The flavor profile sounds exactly right. not sure yet if that brought out the German or celtic in you, or other. I'm still learning.

So glad you had fun, and wish I could be there to enjoy your 'porch stories'. Bet there were some tall tales, leastwise, if one could folow the linguo////////

So glad you had fun, let us know how the next iteration goes.
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#6 Posted : Monday, February 26, 2007 8:11:32 PM(UTC)
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PJ, Thank you for the toast, but was sitting here thinking, or stupifying, and with your TG , and with 6 gal. you should have reached at least 4 to 5 qts. min. and that in the 50 plus range. Not knowing your OG, can't determine, but seems almighty low for 6 gal. Unless you had reflux and got into the 90% range?

Whatever that sample tasted like, it is awful, compared to what it will be like later. Sourmashed, and aged for a little. But you now have a taste to compare.

I know I'm dang mean, raw and rough tast right off the bat, but will improve considerably as you do the setbacks, and you wil hopefully appreciate the change in tast. Now you have a raw basis. Then, even a month or more geing just in a jug will make a tremendous diff.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 27, 2007 6:25:14 PM(UTC)
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Hey John
Congratulations on your son getting the bid! The first of many, I'm sure.
It's late at the moment so tomorrow morning I will go and check the alcohol of the two quarts I did get. Ya, I was kinda mystified ,and a wee bummed, that I didn't get more. Perhaps I would have but I stopped the tails because they were beginning to smell something way unpleasant; super medical alcohol like. I'll know more in the morning when I check.
As always,
Yours in great appreciation, Really!
Thanks John.
PJ Lily
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 28, 2007 8:31:32 AM(UTC)
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Hey John,
Quick note. So the two quarts I have from the UJSM are at 150proof!?! So apparently something went astray. For the next distillation I plan to have the column insulated which will give me better heat control. I also need to bung my thermometer hole; I'm losing steam from around the thermometer stem - but two to four quarts worth? Anyway, I will try those ideas solutions as well as heat even more slowly. I yet again went WAY over the proper temp. It seemed the UJSM wash heated up much faster than the sugar washes I've done before - thought I had more time and walked away 'just for a moment' and it shot up almost to water boiling temp. Could that be where I lost the volume?
Learning by falling down.
Yours in bemusement,
PJ Lily

p.s. check out my Yeast From Sparta post...
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