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Offline Dreamer  
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:52:24 AM(UTC)
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"Does anybody drink/bottle/cask the first middle run (low wine), instead of combining several middles for a second distilling? Or is it too raw?

I haven't even received my equipment yet and I'm already in a hurry."
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#2 Posted : Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:52:57 AM(UTC)
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Does anybody drink/bottle/cask the first middle run (low wine), instead of combining several middles for a second distilling? Or is it too raw?

I haven't even received my equipment yet and I'm already in a hurry.


I know that feeling.

Many, myself included, will do flavored grains and brandies in one slow run with very careful cuts, retaining more flavor. Then save the heads and tails of each kind for a later spirit run. Nothing is lost that way, and you have a nice full bodied drink to get started with.

Same can be done with a reflux, neutral run, collecting only thecleanest of the hearts, and saveing the rest for later."
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#3 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2009 3:26:06 AM(UTC)
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I'm NEW to this hobby and mtnwalker2 has helped me out a lot. This is what I did. I made a 5 gallon barley mash. (5 lbs. golden promise 5 lbs. peated malt, Ag yeast) Ran it once through my PSII VERY SLOWLY and got textbook cuts. No packing, pot distiller piece with no column, 1 cooling line, and insulated the outside. I did not feel the need to run it again because I basically got what I wanted. Used smell, taste and abv measurements for my cuts. Mixed together higher and lower proofs using the good stuff from the run. Threw 68 proof into a toasted oak barrel with a handfull of dark chips (2 Tbs.). Used coffee paper for 72 hours to get rid of harsh volatiles. It was a little harsh at first. Yesterday after 11 days in the oak cask I tasted it and WHAT A DIFFERENCE! I got the courage to give a shot to my neighbor. Mild peaty finish and the oak is starting to come in nicely with a light amber color. It even looks good. Next time I will: make 6 gallons to give more volume of water, do a stripper run and on the the 2nd run (as part of my learning curve to see what comes out), add baking soda, pack some copper, use propane etc., change the grain bill and add 1 lb. Breiss cherry smoked and 1 lb. Weyermann Smoked Malt to bring out a smokier finish. Hope this anwers your question or at least gives you some ideas. My $0.02. Thanks mtnwalker2!
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#4 Posted : Friday, November 27, 2009 7:06:24 AM(UTC)
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"Thanks for the update, Joe. Sounds like you are going to have a great drink.

You are definately our barley mashing master. In a few weeks when I get around to it, I will be hitting you up for some advice.

I presently have a 50# bag of whole malted barley, pale ale. 12# of pale ale DME, a can of dark LME that I originally got to do a Stout, but never did. A crankenstein roller mill, and now a keg with a 12"" hole and lid, a valve and siphon tube that goes down through a hole in a sparging screen.

I still need to pick up some good peat to make some peatreek and or smoke my own barley.

Keep us updated on your progress."
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