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Offline AzJim  
#1 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 8:30:08 AM(UTC)
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"Just checked my fermenter again, 23L, with Air Lock, and the Air lock is bubbling about 2-3 times per second. I re-stirred the mash. I have not seen the ""aggressive boiling/churning as indicated by other posters. SG check with refractometer read 1045, Temp is 70ºF. The Mash is consistent in appearance throughout, no settling to the bottom of the container with clear liquid on top. It has a strong alcohol beer aroma.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the threads I've read indicate that the SG should ideally be around .990 to suggest a complete fermentation.
So, do I ""Hurry up and Wait"" or am I overlooking something that is really obvious. I've read all of the posts on fermenting and based on their content I presume that the Mash is still working.
I just took some pics that I can post if desired.
Thanks Again for your input.
AzJim"
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#2 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 9:10:02 AM(UTC)
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"Your good Jim.
Just let it work off.

This can be tough to do without any drinkin stock built up.

Get an other fermenter in service and get yourself into a cycle where you have something fermenting, something clearing and something ready for the still.

calm down manTongue"
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#3 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 9:19:32 AM(UTC)
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"Taste it. If it's dry like drywine then give it a good stir so that it can de-gas.

Releasing trapped gas can help it clear as small amounts of gas escaping fom under the trub can re-suspend solids and prevent clearing/settling."
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#4 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 2:18:07 PM(UTC)
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"LWTCS,
LW, Thanks again for the valuable info, I concur, I'm too impatient!!!.
I've been studying the Yeast, Fermenting processes etc on both this site and Home Distiller.com for Harvesting Info. As you politely indicated to me before, Lingo is a problem for us beginners and upon reading a ""Thread"" more terminology shows up (BTW>I think that is OK, kind of a forced education) which requires more looking and research. I am realizing that you Mentors certainly have your hands full with us Novices, and I assume that the most aggravating part is that the answers to our questions are located somewhere in the thousands of Threads.
With that said here is my question, and I think my own answer; ""Harvesting Yeast prior to Pitching"" Perhaps Harvesting is the wrong term but in an effort to ""Get the Yeast Working"" can I take a small portion of Mash (250mL or so) add a ""tad""/pinch/or??? of Yeast to that portion of mash, seal the container (1/2 pint Mason Jar}add an Airlock, and let it start ""perking""?? Once that occurs, I ""think"" I can take this 'sample' and mix it in my Main Fermentor, 23L of Mash, and then add the balance of the unused Yeast to the overall blend. I hope this makes sense to you. My understanding is that this may/will accelerate the overall fermentation process!
Regards,
Jim"
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#5 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 3:40:02 PM(UTC)
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"Yes you are refering to a yeast starter. Or a yeast bomb.

The pugi rum thread at HD is a good example.

I have not felt the need to employ this tool.

My drinkin stock is up and could care less if a ferment takes two weeks. Mine do not how ever.

I typicaly invert my panela(condensed cane juice) with little water so that I may bring to volume with cool water and get to pitching temp more quickly. I pour from a distance to encourage aertion as I bring to volume. Then further aerate with a kitchen wisk for 45 to 60 minutes. I also use about 25 to 30% rum dunder.

I whip it up real good and pour a 4 oz quantity (seems high but will fire right up and power through the ferment) of dry active yeast. My yeast hydrates atop the liquid for 20 minutes or so. I wisk it in one last time and within minutes there is a cap.

I think the pugi yeast bomb will make you wash ferment very aggressively but to date, I am quite satisfied with what I am doing."
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:16:31 PM(UTC)
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"When the summer heat hits I make up enough to keep me happy all winter. The picture shows what I make every two weeks and now have about 150 gallons of wash in various stages.

I have lived in this house for 3 years now and have never seen the kitchen table. The little mead jugs are for Christmas."
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Offline linkway  
#7 Posted : Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:54:45 AM(UTC)
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"< BUMP >

Sorry that I'm bumping this. But I did a look see through the forum threads prior to asking my question, and found this thread to be the most related to my questions. I don't really want to start a new thread that can easily consolidate pertinent information in one.

So here goes:

1. I made a Honey mash (mead) and finally used my SG meter. The start reading was [COLOR=""DarkOrange""]SG:1.150[/COLOR]. I let it go till no more bubbling. Gave it a good stir. Let it rest some more to finish off the stirred bubbling. Got my second reading of a little under [COLOR=""DarkOrange""]SG:1.060[/COLOR]. There is no more bubbling. Is this ok or right?

2. This is the first time I've made the Honey mead mash. The final ferment resulted in a nice smelling very golden liquid that had a ""spoon-able film"" on the top of it. I put that the mash is nice smelling as it smells of alcohol, [COLOR=""Red""]no[/COLOR] vinegar smells, and [COLOR=""Red""]no[/COLOR] other off smells. The film is what has me in the ""iffy"" state. Sugar mash or the Molasses mash didn't produce any films.

Any suggestions, opinions, advice for the above? Thanks in advance."
Offline Chore Chunk  
#8 Posted : Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:07:51 AM(UTC)
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"Mead is a different animal and a bit different when dealing with this subject, should really have its own thread.

First, the Brewhaus calculator says your wash is 11.2% and is in the ballpark for meads.
Second, never touch the mead unless moving to another container, like wines you should never allow air to be introduced once the fermentation has taken hold or is complete.

You should post the recipe you used but doubt it is a ""mash"", could be a ""must"" but I just call them a ""wash"". Depending on the recipe I leave the mead in a dark cool place for one month, then slowly decant into a new vessel making sure not to inject any oxygen via splashing and leaving no head room. Oxidation will give mead an off flavor.

I then leave this sit with a full air lock for another 3 months to clear, then again carefully decant in smaller jars and refrigerate. If you don't take your mead to absolute dryness it can blow up your jars if not using heavy champagne bottles and captive corks.

If you made sweet mead or want to back sweeten then you should use campden tablets and potassium sorbate to kill off any lingering yeasts or wild yeast that may have got into an opened jars which will make bombs.

I have never seen a film like you mention on any of the different types of mead and pyments that I have conjured but without knowing what you made can't say what it could be. Mead is susceptible to different kinds of infection and should sterilize any container, funnel, jar, or tool that it comes into contact with a bleach solution and good hot water rinse.

I'm one of those who in many many years have never sterilized any of my mash or wash containers except the initial one when making a distillable but certainly do it when making meads and ciders as it needs to sit for a year to become goodness."
Offline scotty  
#9 Posted : Thursday, December 09, 2010 12:56:36 PM(UTC)
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"I dont think a refractometer is the correct instrument when there is active yeast in the liquid. just a plain hydrometer would be better. the refractometer is for plain juices or to use before pitching i believe.

someone correct me if i am wrong please."
Offline Chore Chunk  
#10 Posted : Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:17:03 PM(UTC)
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"I know refractometers can be used for many things and have only seen them used personally in girly bars to get a sugar drink recipe right, but besides for critical stuff I would see no use for them in making simple whiskey mashes or proven recipes.

I use hydrometers for mead as an alcoholmeter will not work in them but seldom ever use them anymore except to experiment with. None of the stuff I make or drink is measured that close to even remotely need a precision instrument."
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