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#1 Posted : Saturday, September 03, 2005 4:17:03 PM(UTC)
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This thread is not, as the name may indicate, about my experience on absinthe, but about my experience in the production of an absinthe that will satisfy the needs of you out there looking for a very exiting beverage. my first point of this thread is that the absinthe pro TF is an excellent flavoring essence to the point that it will most likely surpass anything you can make on your own without months of trial and error. but the TF part of the absinthe pro TF which I believe stands for thujone free will be of concern to those looking to find the green fairy. So for those adventurous individuals out there here is my personal recipe for an absinthe. First distill as high a proof and as pure a liquor as you can and dilute it down to 80 or 70 percent ,the strength depends on your tastes, you should carbon filter this if you don"t mind running high proof liquor through your carbon filter. Now take this liquor and add to it 2 table spoons of wormwood. wormwood is available at most herb shops, witch/occult shops or "candle" shops. Let this sit for 24 hours and then pour it through a coffee filter to get the plant mass out. This will produce a green liquid, to this you should add a bottle of the absinthe pro TF to give it the flavor that absinth is famous for, and to produce a bottle that, when drunk, will produce mental changes that should satisfy the needs of any absinthe adventurers out there. Also when diluted in the customary way with a sugar cube the louche will be as cloudy as milk with a beautiful neon green color. I find this absinth to be perfectly satisfying to my tastes but a note of warning though, this recipe will produce an incredibly bitter drink. Bitter to the point where some of you out there who do not like bitter things will be unable to stomach it. Also there is the wormwood schnapps which I have tried and found that a single bottle isn"t sufficient for my needs, any one out there though who has tried doubling or tripling the bottle please post with your results.
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#2 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2005 9:21:27 AM(UTC)
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Wrong. Please see my reply in the 'Wormwood for absinthe' thread. If one were to follow your process, it would not, in any shape or form, make even a base aproximation of absinthe.
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#3 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2005 3:37:28 PM(UTC)
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don't bother. i have read all the discussions relating to absinth both here and in the recipe section. zman will offer you nothing but his opinions - stated as facts, which in his mind prove we are all 'uninformed' idiots trying to pervert his ideal of absinth. he claims to be an expert and an acomplished absinth producer. he seems to frequent the discussions where people are asking for absinthe recipes and techniques, but his only contribution is to point out why anyone else's recipes are wrong. mr. mckinley's recipe may not suit everyone, but at least he's offering a starting point. i have to agree with kdunn in the recipe section when he insisted zman 'give up the recipe'. if you're not going to contribute, take your snobbery elsewhere.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, October 15, 2005 8:39:33 AM(UTC)
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Snobbery? I don't think so. If you can point out any discrepancies or 'opinions-stated as facts' regarding what I've posted, then please do so. In the other absinthe thread I posted links that have directions regarding how vintage absinthe was made. All one has to do to get a good reference and starting point is to follow one of the processes as indicated under the 'historic recipes' sections of them ,of course scaling down to the individuals production scale,.
But here is a well-known recipe that is used very successfuly among many home-based absinthe makers:
800ml ethanol ,
95%,
150ml brandy
25gms wormwood ,A.absinthium,
50gms green anise
50gms Florence fennel ,not common fennel,
grind seeds together, pulverize the wormwood and mix with the alcohols and let macerate for at least 24 hours. Then distill and collect off 950 ml of distillate. Take 400ml of this distillate and color using the process as described in www.oxygenee.com under the 'absinthe distiling guides' sections.
The herbs used to color this are:
Roman wormwood ,A. pontica,
Hyssop
Melissa
This is a variation of Duplais' 'Pontarlier Style' absinthe.
I do not consider the persons on this board as 'uninformed idiots' ,well perhaps you LFV,. Also, my 'ideal' of what absinthe is exactly that of what anyone who has done even more than a modicum of research into what absinthe is. I just get tired and frustrated when absinthe is continually postured as a drink that will make a person get hallucinations, cut off their ear, and become instantly cool by drinking it.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, October 15, 2005 8:55:26 AM(UTC)
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Zman needn't give anyone his particular recipe. The historical recipes and protocols are clearly established in Duplais' Traité de la Fabrication des Liqueurs et de la Distillation des Alcools, here, www.oxygenee.com/absinthe-BOOKS4.html, among others. If you want to know what real absinthe is and how it was/is made, do some homework.

Zman is right, the above process is based on word of mouth guesses about what absinthe is and is entirely incorrect. The author can't really be blamed, as most people are unaware of how much accurate info about absinthe really is to be had. Absinthe is not terribly bitter; it's tastes more like ouzo. It is also not a drug and won't get you high.

There's a difference between snobbery and trying to help people understand the truth a frequently misunderstood drink. 'Snob' is a label frequently applied by people who don't want to be annoyed with standards or facts.
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#6 Posted : Saturday, October 15, 2005 8:59:18 AM(UTC)
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My comment about 'the above process' refers to the original post, not Zman's recipe and process, which are entirely accurate and produce some of the finest absinthe I've ever tasted.
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#7 Posted : Saturday, October 15, 2005 3:56:09 PM(UTC)
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'don't bother. i have read all the discussions relating to absinth both here and in the recipe section.'

And somehow you manage to remain ignorant. Possibly losing the arrogant attitude might rectify that, but I doubt it.
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#8 Posted : Saturday, October 15, 2005 3:57:38 PM(UTC)
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BTW, it is spelled absinthe.
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#9 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2005 3:33:18 PM(UTC)
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For the record, I have found everything that Zman has said on all Absinthe related forums to be quite useful ,and accurate,, and I hate that LVF has taken my words [out of context] to fuel a hateful argument with someone who has pointed out some very correct FACTS. We [Zman and I - and now Hiram] actually make reference to the same historic recipes in our posts in the Recipe
Section. Although I pointed out an adequate source for recipes, the advice I gave on where to obtain quality and acurate herbs was poor at best. The Green Devil herb kits are CRAP! I also admit that I used the term 'top brands' too freely as more of a reference to sales rather than quality. I maintain that peoples' tastes in absinthe differ like they would in wine or whisky, but my response in the recipe section was ment to be 'tounge in cheek' to coax Zman to give me his recipe - Thanks by the way Zman - but I believe I may have worded it poorly, and if it in any way contributed to all this 'angry talk' I'm sorry. Specifically I'd like to thank Zman for his advice earlier on the correct fennel to use. This saved me from a potentially horrible mistake. I love that everyone has rallied around Zman. He is definately an asset to our 'education' in absinthe. LVF ,and frankly you Sonoman,, all the hateful attitudes are going to discourage people from asking questions and making contributions to this forum. Zman, I think you really know your stuff and thanks for the contributions. LVF does not speek for me.

-Keep and open mind!

I ask one last favor from you Zman. Do you have any advice on a reputable place ,on line, to get quality [correct]ingredients?
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#10 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2005 11:13:29 AM(UTC)
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Sourcing good herbs is tough. The bulk of herbs sold on the market are of an inferior grade ,at least as far as absinthe making is concerned,. Most persons who are accomplished at making their own absinthe grow alot of their herbs. I do know of one place in the USA that sells Florence fennel imported from Europe. Try contacting:
[email="cascadeherbs
yahoo.com"]cascadeherbs
yahoo.com[/email]
They used to sell Roman wormwood also, but I don't think that they sell that anymore. You might try San Francisco Herb Company at:
www.herbspicetea.com
for the absinthium, anise, hyssop, and lemon balm ,melissa,. You will have to pick out the stems and sift it, but the quality is usually better than what alot of shops sell. Just keep in mind that the quality is not as good as if you grew it yourself. I would suggest that if you are serious about making your own that you grow your own absinthium, pontica, hyssop, and melissa.
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#11 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2005 3:35:11 AM(UTC)
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Thanks again Zman. I believe I will try to grow my own as you have suggested, but until they are ready, I'll check out the sources you provided.

I've seen references to aging absinthe in oak barrells. What do you think? Wouldn't that effect the flavor? Do you age yours?

Thanks again.
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