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Offline Maddawgs  
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:27:56 AM(UTC)
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Hi All,
Ok, most of the screw in elements that I have seen so far look to be 2 wire connections. Do you usually ground these and if you do what do you ground them to?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:39:25 AM(UTC)
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they are both hots on most heaters.....220v. If you wanna run 110v just make one hot and one neutral. you will lose 3/4 the rated wattage that way though.... in other words a 5500 watt heater element running on 110v becomes a 1375 watt element.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:04:02 AM(UTC)
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actually the output wattage would 1375 or 25 %. Scotty put up a sticky under tech support/ some information on water heater elements with all the math
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#4 Posted : Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:08:32 PM(UTC)
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"also i like to run a neutral wire/ground to the npt coupling that is held in place by a hose clamp. In 220 volt setups that wire is usually green and in 110 volt setups it is the bare wire.
DD is correct on the wattage.

Elements are usually marked 220 volts. i like to use them with 110 volts because they last forever but remember that a 220 volt element that is run on 110 volts is 25% of its rated wattage as DD said


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#5 Posted : Friday, November 16, 2012 12:28:09 AM(UTC)
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Hi All,
Thanks for the replies. I will be using 110 volt 1500w to 2000w elements. I'm not set up for 220 so it is not an option for me. Is the set up for these 110v elements different? this is what I thinking of getting http://www.amazon.com/gp...39031&pf_rd_i=507846 or something similar. If that won't work I"m open to suggestions.
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#6 Posted : Friday, November 16, 2012 3:11:10 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: scotty Go to Quoted Post
also i like to run a neutral wire/ground to the npt coupling that is held in place by a hose clamp. In 220 volt setups that wire is usually green and in 110 volt setups it is the bare wire.
DD is correct on the attage.

Elements are usually marked 220 volts. i like to use them with 110 volts because they last forever but remember that a 220 volt element that is run on 110 volts is 25% of its rated wattage as DD said


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This is how mine is grounded also. Please do not run without a ground - you risk death otherwise.
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#7 Posted : Friday, November 16, 2012 3:12:23 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Maddawgs Go to Quoted Post
Hi All,
Thanks for the replies. I will be using 110 volt 1500w to 2000w elements. I'm not set up for 220 so it is not an option for me. Is the set up for these 110v elements different? this is what I thinking of getting http://www.amazon.com/gp...39031&pf_rd_i=507846 or something similar. If that won't work I"m open to suggestions.
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That should be fine.
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#8 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:01:30 AM(UTC)
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if you're using a RSC with a ground do you still need to ground heater element to kettle ?
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#9 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:36:23 AM(UTC)
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Hi dieselduo,
I would think (and I could be wrong) that you would to complete the ground circuit. I am as far from being an electrician as you can be so I'm not really sure.
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#10 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:43:40 AM(UTC)
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OK, I have ordered 2 of the reliance 2000 watt heater elements. What type of cord should I buy to connect them?
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#11 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:50:22 AM(UTC)
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i got a 14ga replacement cord from Lowes
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#12 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:08:06 AM(UTC)
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IS that a standard water heater replacement cord or just a 14ga cord?
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#13 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:37:46 AM(UTC)
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just a 14 ga cord with the male plug on the end. It works with a 120v 1650w element
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:44:01 AM(UTC)
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if you're using a RSC with a ground do you still need to ground heater element to kettle ?


The kettle must also be grounded. Use the wire that is from the heat element and plugged into the RSC or you would just have a broken(( incomplrte)) ground."
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#15 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:02:09 AM(UTC)
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Hi All,
Sorry to be a pain in the butt but I am stupid when it comes to electrical. I was in home depot yesterday looking to buy the cords for my 110v 2000 watt heaters and could not figure out which cord to buy. Could someone please tell me the exact type of cord I should be looking for? My PS2HC should be arriving in a week or two and I would like to have everything ready.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:38:46 AM(UTC)
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"2000 watts divided by 110 volts = 18+ amps.. your recepticle must be a 20 amp breaker- no dont change it. it must already be a 20 amp circuit. 14 guage will be ok but i prefer 12 gauge wire. the cord should have 3 wires in it. i like to use the color code black white and green. the green is the wire to ground to the boiler. the black is always the hot in 110 volt normally. the white wire should go to the part of the plug that has the wider spade terminal. the black to the standard size spade terminal and the green to the odd leg on the plug. as far as the heat element goes hook up the black and white to it--either terminal is ok

if i made any mistakes someone will pick it up."
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#17 Posted : Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:52:47 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: scotty Go to Quoted Post
2000 watts divided by 110 volts = 18+ amps.. your recepticle must be a 20 amp breaker- no dont change it. it must already be a 20 amp circuit. 14 guage will be ok but i prefer 12 gauge wire. the cord should have 3 wires in it. i like to use the color code black white and green. the green is the wire to ground to the boiler. the black is always the hot in 110 volt normally. the white wire should go to the part of the plug that has the wider spade terminal. the black to the standard size spade terminal and the green to the odd leg on the plug. as far as the heat element goes hook up the black and white to it--either terminal is ok

if i made any mistakes someone will pick it up.

Hi Scotty,
Thanks I'll look for the 12 gauge.
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