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Offline blaztaz  
#1 Posted : Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:37:17 PM(UTC)
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"I have a bunch of questions and would like to post some results, but it seems a little dangerous to do that on the forums now. Is there any other way to get some questions answered? I am a bit bummed with this whole TTB thing. Is it common to hear of these things in this hobby?

Blaztaz"
Offline Fritz The Cat  
#2 Posted : Monday, May 27, 2013 4:01:26 AM(UTC)
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Sorry, but I don't have a clue what you're talking about. Did I miss something?
Offline RCRed  
#3 Posted : Monday, May 27, 2013 4:28:02 AM(UTC)
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Heya Blaztaz..

For a variety of reasons which I will be delighted to go into deep technical minuta, I would say go ahead. Don't let any of that crap affect you.

What I DO suggest is -

Keep self identifying characteristics out of profiles , registrations, pictures ;

Locations: This should never be even close to where you are - Even "Ip Address Searches" to find someone are not accurate - they only run to the closest "internet switch" (think of your local telco switch/routing/exchange building - same concept). To get an actual location, the telco must search millions of usage records to to see "who" was using an IP address at a specified date/time (You see, they reuse them, like a phone routing switch at the telco switch building). That takes a subpeona and days to weeks to dredge up - Chances are LOW that they'd go to that extreme unless you decide to ask for a guest spot on that damn "moonshiners" show. Yes, there are "exceptions" to this, if you requested a "static" IP Address (Read: Stick out like a sore thumb), or are in a network so sparse that the addresses don't rotate much (But this too can be controlled by simply powering off the modem a while, causing a the network to free the IP for other uses).

My user name implies I am in some sort of city - Nope - MILES away from there, and my IP address resolves to a switch 40 miles from me and 60 miles from that town! Am I a terrorist ? No - but I am also not a sheeple and I know that we don't guard our information like we should. These are pretty basic common sense elements to prevent identity theft, folks. It just so happens the strategy also works well for guarding personal information-of any kind. For the record, "RoyseCityRed" is a ficticious name I created for a comedy skit I do on stage when the banjo player is tuning in between songs and the doofus takes too long.. BigGrin "Red" is always gettin' into adventures like "Vern and Virgil" stories...

Another thing to consider - There is no direct corellation to a BH Forum member and a BH customer (other than self admission)- I don't recall having to give any information about any cust number, invoice numbers to certify a membership. They didn't/don't ask on purpose-to keep the privacy where it SHOULD be. As a consultant, I configured a forum where a new registrant had to have the referrer name of the month to be sucessfully registered - but that is at the request of the neighborhood assoc. that owns it - And they allowed NO sharing of member data with any one except administrative personel- that was their solution for access control - My point is they understood the issue and created a solution that was palatable to them.

For a long time, the forum code folks ran came with "Viewing of profile info" open to the public by default. In the past few years that has tightened up as folks like me missus audit the security and crack down on possible identify/personal/security information theft. You see, it's really all the same, just used for a differing purpose- A criminal, or a government intrusion. People as a rule, like their privacy and expect we are all more or less the same on this point, but not all are subscribers to privacy rights. Also, It is important to remember that the internet is pretty much a living information machine. - It has things called search spiders that constantly collect and collate infomation. So, public posts, public profile information all get collected 24X7, 365 days a year. Some Sites PAY for getting themselves included in these searches so they are "seen" - You see this in website offers on TV - branded as "inclusion into search engines to get you visibility".

But do understand, the spiders collect everything they can see publically. Fortunately, thats controllable, but most often, forum website code is written with the intent of sharing it all, so steps must be taken to control what these beasties can consume. It's known as "Data Mining" and there are oodles of companies doing it, and so there are almost as many search spiders as real users any more. If you want an example of this, do the following;

1 - Go to amazon.com - search out any product and look at a few models of it
2 - then, go to Fox News, or any site that runs ads - and looki here - On the advertisement pane, are the same products I looked at on Amazon along with other suggestions. Powerul, but companies PAY to get this edge on their competitors. Can this be blocked? - You bet, but you have to dump yer internet cache between every page, or tell your browser to do it for you - Not somehitng the everyday user thinks about.

So, it's incumbent on you to police what "could" be seen and interpreted - I'll leave it to the reader to define what this means for them and how far they want to take it. I have learned the hard way after running websites for 12+ years what a good privacy policy is and realizing where it starts - Right here at my keyboard, reagrdless of what site I traverse.

So, keep yer powder dry, still clean. It is NOT illegal to posess a distiller - after all, we are distilling water as preppers, right? And, if that dreadful time should come, we can also help the nation by making fuel, and essential medical supplies for sterilization.

my .02 x 75
Offline blaztaz  
#4 Posted : Monday, May 27, 2013 5:45:43 AM(UTC)
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Hello Red,

My biggest fear now is with BH having to give all the information on who they have sold a still. All that information is sitting there for a direct map to my door step. I, like most people here, am doing this for a hobby. I don't want to sell and I am not looking to make mass quantities. I like the challenge and want to learn the concepts. But now our govt is flexing its muscles. Do we cower and hope all passes, or remove the target from our backs until things cool down? How long will I be on their list now?

Pretty sad that I can go buy 20L of wine for a test run and it is legal. But the minute I add enough heating and cooling to clean it up, I am a criminal. Makes no sense to me.

Blaztaz
Offline RCRed  
#5 Posted : Monday, May 27, 2013 6:18:02 AM(UTC)
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Heya Blaz..

Just finshed repairing the Dryer, catching my wind, and thought I'd reply..

If you've a SSN, a job and pay tax, they've got a lot on ya there. I agree with the assertion in the TTB thread that they are only looking for blantant abuse, and occasional will not be the target - But taking steps to avoid being the tallest tree is also important.

I am going to assert my 1st Amendment right of free speech until they put me in camp for doing so. Fortunately for us, the Media lap dogs are starting to turn, and given current events, it may be a turning point in how obtrusive things have become. All things have a tipping point where the trend reverses. Or, it may be a new way of generating revenue for the nanny state- Like - Ok, you have one, then you pay a tax, and a hefty donation to healthcare, since it is a medical device - it produces product than can be used medicinally.

Gotta love lawyers.
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