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Offline cabobill  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:39:35 AM(UTC)
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i have plenty of red oak,i use it for fire wood,can i use it to oak some of my spirits?i see most people use white oak ,but i dont have any.can i use just raw chips or should i toast some or char some?just cant seem to find the answer.thanks for any repliesConfused
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:44:21 AM(UTC)
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red oak is more porous than white oak. that's why barrels are made from white,but as far as using for aging it would be fine after a char or toasting
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 9:59:15 AM(UTC)
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I duuno, Diesel.. I've read "never" use red oak.. they n'er said why thou... I was curious, but I have seen that admonition in more than one publication. Cabo's nears to me and we've a shitload of them around here... Just about all the firewood u can buy here is a red oak unless you happen on some pecan or mesquite...
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:43:25 AM(UTC)
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in north Georgia they use red oak for aging and it is called red whiskey.the wood is thoroughly dried and toasted. golden northwest distilleries says their samish bay single malt is partially aged on red oak so why not give'r a try.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:44:53 AM(UTC)
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See.. what the hell do I know... BigGrin Seriously, sometimes I think I get caught up too far in the manuals... *sheesh*

Thx, Diesel.. I learned something today...
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:07:07 AM(UTC)
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oh i forgot to point out that red oak doesn't have the vanillins that white oak has so your flavor profile won't be the same.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:20:22 AM(UTC)
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here's a link where you can even buy red oak barrels for aging http://www.blackswanbarrels.com/shop/
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:30:45 AM(UTC)
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oh i forgot to point out that red oak doesn't have the vanillins that white oak has so your flavor profile won't be the same.


well im gonna give it a go,will char some with the propane tourch,will let you know how it turns out,will do just one quart.your right rc most of my wood is red oak,i did cut one hickory this year and split it for the smoker,im not a big fan of hickory,i like pecan the bestso i have a s^%t load of hickory left,so its free hickory all split and ready to go,just come get some ,free to whom ever makes the drive out here.and thanks for all the replies,diesel u give so much! thanks"
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well let us know how it works out. try toasting some too
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:39:08 AM(UTC)
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well let us know how it works out. try toasting some too


chared some red oak early this morning and added it to a quart of my hooch,in less than 5 hours it looks like weak iced tea,can't wait to see it in a few weeks,bet it will be a dark amber brown,going to toast some oak this evening when i make some beer bread to go with my home made potato soup,its a cold day here in east texas.will post results in a week or so."
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:47:13 AM(UTC)
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Indeed. .The Dogs don' even wanna stay out today...

It's fairly normal to get some color right away, but the really good flavors for me start to show up at 4 weeks.. I need to practice some damn restraint so I can get some to 6 weeks...
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:27:12 AM(UTC)
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Indeed. .The Dogs don' even wanna stay out today...

It's fairly normal to get some color right away, but the really good flavors for me start to show up at 4 weeks.. I need to practice some damn restraint so I can get some to 6 weeks...

yea my dog is here in the living room,boy does she need a bath lol.

i sure hope i can show a little restraint,but if not, o well.i was suprisied at how soon it showed some color,it looks good already,will have just a sip or two this week end ,just QC,
you know what i mean,i have several pints of ag on the shelf so i should be able to hold off for awhile.started a birdwatchers sugar mash yesterday,just want to see if its still as good as i once thought.talked to my friend at the feed and seed,he told me can order 50# bags of barley ,oats, corn,and just about any other grain i want,we have a mill in mineola and he can get it thru them.its a lot more than i need at one time but the price is good and i will store it in some 55gal plastic drums.other than some surgar and yeast i should be set for a good while.damn am i hooked or what?"
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 2:56:27 AM(UTC)
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"morning rc,
just a quick question for u,i have some red star champagne yeast.can i use it on some ujssm mash,i usually use fleischmans dry active and like it, just dont want to waste the red star.north wind blowing like a b- atch today.i sure would like to put some more maters out,but got bit a few weeks ago so guess ill wait 2 more weeks."
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:18:47 AM(UTC)
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I dunno about that champagne yeast...Helll, most of this is experimentin' once you have a proces down..

Maybe make a small batch to test?

Yep, it's a light breeze here today, the willows are only 3/4's bent over backwards... Wink I got burned by a late hard freeze trying to be an eager beaver last year, so I am waiting to put out my starts and sow - at least 2 more weeks...
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