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Offline Backwash  
#1 Posted : Friday, March 21, 2014 11:38:16 AM(UTC)
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"Just getting started and want to be clear on the testing procedures. When taking the starting specific gravity (ssg) do you take before pitching yeast or just after? What kind of levels are you looking for for the start. Then after ferment is done, you take the final specific gravity (fsg) and make sure it below 1.00. What are typical values for final? I realize this will be variable depending on the wash but can you calculate potential yields from the difference?
When you take the sample liquid, do you discard the liquid or pour back in. Maybe a risk of contamination? Thanks, B"
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#2 Posted : Friday, March 21, 2014 1:39:02 PM(UTC)
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Ok Backwash here goes. SG (starting gravity) should be taken before pitching yeast. Immediately after is ok but before is better. Levels to look for depend on the wash or mash. A lot of people say sugar washes should go no more than 1.080. All grain mashes probably won't get that high from my experience. Rums washes with molasses and brown sugar will be high also. Due to the heavy molasses. FG (final gravity) is taken when ferment is done and should be 1.000 or below. Again this depends on what you are making. I have sugar washes go to .992. all grains to just above 1.000. Don't forget that temperature effects the reading and should be adjusted using the formula that should have come with your hydrometer. The formula I use to calculate approx. ABV of a finished wash is "SG minus FG times 129 equals approx ABV". ie. 1.080 -.998 = .082 times 129 = 10.58% ABV. Approximately. As far as tossing the tested amount as long as everything is sanitary you don't have to toss it. But for 200 ml of wash is it that important to keep?
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#3 Posted : Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:02:44 AM(UTC)
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"Hokey. Thanks for the reply. I have a hydrometer that has a scale for % alcohol with a range of 0% to 13% Would this be OK to use and just bypass the specific gravity readings?
I get the meaning of loosing the tested liquid, not worth the risk, When you draw the sample, do you use something like a sterile pipette. I worry about the hand dipping as I have seen several videos of guys sticking their hands in the wort when pitching the yeast, one video the guy submerges his wristwatch into the wash. Now you know that watch has got to be just full of nasty stuff. B."
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#4 Posted : Sunday, March 23, 2014 9:33:16 AM(UTC)
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I just use a clean plastic measuring cup to scoop out enough to fill testing tube. I don't use any body part to touch the wash in the bucket. I will however dip my finger in the measuring cup to taste level of sweetness. To each his own I guess. % of alcohol in a wash will not necessarily tell you when the wash is done though. So you should still do a final gravity test. My hydrometer has other scales on it but I have never paid attention to them. I have an alcohol meter to test after distillation.

edit to follow when I get home from work and look at my hydrometer.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, March 23, 2014 11:04:46 AM(UTC)
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Hokey, My Hydrometer was made for brewing beer but since that is really what we are making with the wash, I figured it would work. I need to get a alcohol proof meter also. I am beginning to see what a gadget rich hobby this can be. I need several additional containers than I thought necessary, but except the measuring instruments the balance is easily found. I picked up 4 5 gallon frosting and filling buckets from a local bakery for $2/each with a nice fitting lid.B
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#6 Posted : Sunday, March 23, 2014 11:24:26 AM(UTC)
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It was done successfully for a thousand years without gadgets but with them I think you get more predictable and repeatable results. Buckets from bakeries and restaurants are the way to go if you use 5 gal buckets.

Here is the instructions on my triple scale beer & wine hydrometer. "the alcohol scale indicates potential alcohol. In order to determine the alcohol content of a wine or beer you will need to take two readings: one before fermentation an one after it is complete. ie. First reading 6% minus 2nd reading 1% = 5% ABV.
Good luck and have fun.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:19:49 PM(UTC)
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"Hokey, Thanks for that info. That will help me adjust washes so I will have a rough idea what to expect as far as product.
Do you know what the Balling scale on the hydrometer is for? Is that something related to the Brix scale for measuring sugar content? Just curious."
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:40:06 PM(UTC)
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It is just a comparable measure of sucrose level in a solution. Like Fahrenheit and Celsius. Different scales for the same thing.
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