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#1 Posted : Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:25:41 PM(UTC)
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I saw these chips at walmart,so I picked up the bag,and it said J.D.oak barrel staves,so I smelled them and they smelled wonderful.I thought,what a waste useing these on the smoker,when they could be flavoring my product.
So I bought some and put them to work in some corn/malt hearts{135proof}for a few days.Did some sampleing today,and those chips have better flavor than the kind I was useing.{LD carlson american oak} I like these alot.Has anyone else used these?
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#2 Posted : Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:42:11 PM(UTC)
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I haven't but I've been looking for them, as I have read lots of posts of others useing them with great results. Suggestion, put a pint of the chips in a jar, and cover with a good quality cream sherry. Let marinate a while, then use them where appropriate for the flavor- rums, whiskey, corn, whatever. Adds a nice touch.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:46:08 PM(UTC)
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Oh yeah, save the oak aged and flavored sherry to add to some of your brews.
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#4 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2007 3:03:33 PM(UTC)
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Today I went to a local patio store to get some propane tanks refilled,and when i went in to pay i saw a rack of smoker chips.They had 9 different
kinds.One bag said wine barrel chips,from woodbridge winerys.Needless to say,I bought a bag.Opened them up and surenuff,wine stains into oak.The pieces are bigger than most smoker chips,so these should work good.They have some wine smell,but nothing like the jack daniels chips,you can smell the whiskey in them from a foot away,with the bag closed up.I will be trying these wine chips out soon,in a quart or 2,and will let you all know what I find out.Think Ill buy some spanish sherry and soak some in it.Could be interesting!
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:42:44 AM(UTC)
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I was in Academy Sports today and came across the JD chips. I've always liked the way JD smelled, but never cared much for the taste...not really a whiskey person. They also had applewood. Sort of smelled like green apples. In the future I may try to add some flavor using the chips with some spirits.

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:38:44 AM(UTC)
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Travis,Ive got a 1/2 gal.of corn/malt whiskey that I used those chip on,and its real good!
You cant drink very much of it,cause its uncut.
Its 135proof,and it taste real smooth,till you swallow it,then you get the burn!I have a gal.more that i ran last night,cut to 110proof,thats sitting on those chips right now.
Im shooting for a heavily oaked 107proof whiskey,thats smooth going down.I may have to add some heads,cause I guess I did a good job of making the cuts.It taste too clean now,but I will wait till the oak has done its job,to be sure.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:43:37 AM(UTC)
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Apple wood is very strong relative to oak. Very good flavor though if you like a strong wood essence. Mix a little with oak, or else, age for a week or so on apple, filter, ana add oak. I'm talking about charred apple chips here.

Some one else?
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:28:30 PM(UTC)
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John,I put some of those wine barrel chips in a pint jar,and filled it with uncut heads from yesterdays run.Today I took a peek,and the color is much more reddish tint,instead of the brown color from regular oak.Im going to use a little of this to spice up the gallon I have on the JD chips. Im thinking these wine chips would be the thing for a scotch.I will use these on the wheat germ,after I do tasting.Looks like jonny walker red.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:35:00 PM(UTC)
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I used oak for sometime but when I kept reading about apple wood chips I just had to try it. I live where there arent any apple trees close by so I had to order the chips online. I have had them for the last three months and now I don't age anything on the oak, just charred apple. Gives an already good product that distictively different taste I was looking for. It does get strongly sweet very quickly so what I do is age on carbon and toasted hickory chips for 2 weeks and then filter that out. Then I put it on charred apple for about 3 to 4 weeks, when time is up we start drinking. Cant describe how good it is, tried some store bought the other day.........yuck!! Doesnt even come close to mine anymore!!
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:59:08 PM(UTC)
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m davis, I will have to try this. Everything I have read, apple will age much quicker than oak and a better flavor if not overdone. I have apple trees, so no problem there. Ive only read that the apple can over power the flavor?

Thanks for the lead, will try.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:52:24 AM(UTC)
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Wineo, I also like the sherry taste. I keep a pint jar of heavy toasted oak soaking in sherry, and mix some of those with med. toasted for ageing, and if I want a touch more sherry tast, I add a bit of the oaked sherry.

n davis, Going to the farm this week, so will collect some apple wood. You've pretty well confirmed what I've read. Thanks
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#12 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2007 10:34:40 AM(UTC)
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'apple wood chips...so what I do is age on carbon and toasted hickory chips for 2 weeks'
The above is from n davis post of March 28,07. I have read other posts talk about aging with carbon. what does the carbon do in the agring process and how much do you use? I'm assumeing this is activatied carbon that is used in the filtration process.

I love this fourm and think all of you are geniuses. Thanks for all the great information.
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#13 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2007 11:43:48 AM(UTC)
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The carbon removes some of the bad flavors,and smoothes out the taste some.If you had some whiskey that had a harsh flavor{too many heads/tails}carbon would help remove some of the harshness.I used some brewhaus carbon on some turbo 48 sugar wash that was refluxed,then watered down,and it didnt change it much,but it was real clean to began with.The commercial distillerys dont make cuts,and charcoal filter their stuff to clean up the taste,but it wont clean the hangover out of it.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2007 1:23:00 AM(UTC)
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I use 1 tablespoon of carbon per quart -- I try to stay around 120 proof for aging and drinking. I use it because it helps mellow the shine out a little quicker, keeps that little taste that you get on the back of your tongue from happening. ,make sure to filter the carbon dust out with cotton -- takes alot longer to filter but the dust carries nasties with it and can carry over to finished product if you dont get it out, The hickory or any wood used with carbon ,put in at same time, will not have much effect on color or taste; the carbon cancels out the aging but helps with maturing. In my opinion the hickory helps level out a little bit of taste and helps with the mellowing, probably isnt worth the trouble, but once I got my system going..........anyway hope that helps answer your question.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2007 3:15:10 AM(UTC)
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Thank you guys for the input and answers to my question. I do use the carbon for filtering, and now I will put some in with chips for aging.

Has anyone tried pear wood chips, toasted or charred? I had to take down an old pear tree last year and still have the wood.
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