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Offline tlt-1  
#1 Posted : Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:48:37 AM(UTC)
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"Hi,
I am new!! Ran my first run and it had a blue color to it....what do you think it is?
I started with 5 gal water, 10lbs sugar, 1 pack prestige 48hr turbo yeast, 1lime and liquor quik distillers yeast nutrient w/ag.
When fermentation was complete I added brewhaus sparkolloid, left one day and ran it in a simple pot still. (Sg 0.990)
Threw first 4oz away, set next 8oz aside, kept next 40oz
120 proof and set next 90oz aside and stopped collecting
80 proof.
My question is it had a blue color, what would cause this and is it ok to drink? (hope so I had to try it)
Thanks,
tlt-1"
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#2 Posted : Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:58:58 AM(UTC)
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Hi,
I am new!! Ran my first run and it had a blue color to it....what do you think it is?
I started with 5 gal water, 10lbs sugar, 1 pack prestige 48hr turbo yeast, 1lime and liquor quik distillers yeast nutrient w/ag.
When fermentation was complete I added brewhaus sparkolloid, left one day and ran it in a simple pot still. (Sg 0.990)
Threw first 4oz away, set next 8oz aside, kept next 40oz
120 proof and set next 90oz aside and stopped collecting
80 proof.
My question is it had a blue color, what would cause this and is it ok to drink? (hope so I had to try it)
Thanks,
tlt-1


Copper salts from too many nutrients in ya wash or from dirty copper, and no DO NOT CONSUME IT."
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#3 Posted : Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:33:18 AM(UTC)
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Run it again or disgard it?
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#4 Posted : Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:55:46 AM(UTC)
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Run it again or disgard it?


Add it in on your next run and re distill it."
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#5 Posted : Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:53:07 AM(UTC)
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"Thanks!
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#6 Posted : Thursday, March 08, 2012 5:45:51 PM(UTC)
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"Ran it again and it's still blue???
Cleaned and ran 2 test runs with water before starting.
Followed recipe with the amount of nutrients called for.
Still confused about what is causing the blue color.

Not sure what to do next! Don't want to make another blue bach (it dose tast good)

Any help would be greatly appreciated!"
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#7 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 5:04:58 AM(UTC)
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Ran it again and it's still blue???
Cleaned and ran 2 test runs with water before starting.
Followed recipe with the amount of nutrients called for.
Still confused about what is causing the blue color.

Not sure what to do next! Don't want to make another blue bach (it dose tast good)

Any help would be greatly appreciated!


what type of still are you running?"
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#8 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 10:45:32 AM(UTC)
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A pot still I made (would put a pic up if I knew how) all new stainless steel and copper
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#9 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 10:55:42 AM(UTC)
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[ATTACH]207[/ATTACH]see if that worked ??
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#10 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 1:39:35 PM(UTC)
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A pot still I made (would put a pic up if I knew how) all new stainless steel and copper


Well pictures speak a thousand words as they say....

The blue is copper salts and you should not drink it. It is poisonous.

It is usually caused by a high content of nitrogen in the wash, which when distilled reacts with the copper in the still and creates copper slats, AKA copper sulphate. Most times a turbo yeast is the culprit.

The other common cause is dirty copper in the ethanol vapor path or other contaminates.
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#11 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 2:33:24 PM(UTC)
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"why don't we here more about this?
what should I do to insure my next wash doesn't do the same?"
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#12 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 3:51:59 PM(UTC)
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why don't we here more about this?
what should I do to insure my next wash doesn't do the same?


there are a couple of threads over at Home Distillers Forum talkin about it. Here is one: http://homedistiller.org/forum/...copper+sulphate#p6897070

I suggest that you do a cleaning run with vinegar & If you are going to used the Turbo Yeast follow the directions on the sachet and don't add anything else to the wash.
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#13 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 7:10:43 PM(UTC)
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Acidify your wash as it goes into still. Alkaline conditions promote the excess nitrogen conversion to NH3 (ammonia); which reacts with 1) sulfates and then copper 2) direct with copper.
Acidic conditions inhibit the ammonia formation.
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#14 Posted : Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:36:35 AM(UTC)
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"Thanks for the info!!!
I will let you know how the next run goes."
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#15 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:46:40 AM(UTC)
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"Did a cleaning run with vinegar and water, made a new wash and run it last night.
It came out great! Thanks for all the help!
tlt"
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#16 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:51:34 AM(UTC)
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Did a cleaning run with vinegar and water, made a new wash and run it last night.
It came out great! Thanks for all the help!
tlt


Outstanding! Congratulations!BigGrin"
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#17 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:33:31 AM(UTC)
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I was gonna say if the blue stayed in you could sell it to your local barber!!! Just kidding!
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