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really cornfused now. Anyway it looks like a pro job
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Looks good. Smart thinking on the rubber. I tried to think every whichaway to shield off the nekked wires. Came to the conclusion I had plenty of electrical tape. Thinking might be good to cap it off with some duct tape. That goes good with everything seems like. Whatcha think? Bet that inner tube come off a Harley. Nice smooth riding Jap Bikes dont have flats. What happened to the green wire? Originally Posted by: scotty   My friend had a piece of inner tube from his motorcycle which i cut up to insulate folks from the hot wiring.
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"LOL For a guy who pretends he knows nothing you picked it right up. lol lol It is attached to the coupling of the 8 gallon rig with a clamp  OR THIS. i drilled into the handle on the 6 gallon still  "
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Dang your making me wish the green one was still with us. Now if we doing this to prevent riding old sparky..so to speak...do not the other metal stuff need to be grounded to something? I had kin who was traveling sales associates who peddled lightning rods and buggy whips. I did not just fall off the turnip truck last Thursday. I am thinking of drilling a hole in the floor of the mancave and pounding a rebar down to the red bed and hooking to the handle of the hooch maker with car battery cables. Tell me what you think. Thanks. Either that I might quit extracting whilst wet and barefooted and wearing my retired Sumo Rassler thong underwear. I am trying to paint you a mental pic here.
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"Dang, hardest of heads. Peel the insulation back find the green wire, splice into it adding the green wire ya cut off and ground it like ya was showed with a clamp around the fitting and you was told about previously. Just do it on one as that will connect you to a common ground that your electrician so conveniently provided you when he wired your casa. That little green wire leads to an earth ground.. Once the boiler is grounded you can step wet footed out of your cement pond , touch the boiler, and no worry about getting shocked. Comprende ?  Originally Posted by: bigwheel Dang your making me wish the green one was still with us. Now if we doing this to prevent riding old sparky..so to speak...do not the other metal stuff need to be grounded to something? I had kin who was traveling sales associates who peddled lightning rods and buggy whips. I did not just fall off the turnip truck last Thursday. I am thinking of drilling a hole in the floor of the mancave and pounding a rebar down to the red bed and hooking to the handle of the hooch maker with car battery cables. Tell me what you think. Thanks. Either that I might quit extracting whilst wet and barefooted and wearing my retired Sumo Rassler thong underwear. I am trying to paint you a mental pic here. "
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Well I always like to obey instructions..but I think the snippet of green wire got throwed into the trash accidentally. Glad I was raised to never throw anything away..not sure why the green snippets got treated so shabbily. Guessing the Little Bride is the culprit as usual. Sure there is a bunch of old extensions cords out in the back of the pickem up truck. I keeps them under the beer cans to prevent sun damage. This be brought up to code muy Pronto. Thanks. I hate to get formal dressed for hooching activities.
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"I bought a 5500 watt (rated) element, running 240 volts it pulls 20.9 amps at 120 volts it pulls 10.5 amps and 9"" long from back of the nut.
Calculating actual wattage is P=I x E
P= Power in Watts
I= Current in Amps
E= Voltage in volts
My values were 240v=5016 watts and 120v=1260 watts
240 volts gets 6 gallon up to temp in 30 min or less
120 volts using a Router controller at about lvl 8 on dial for most all runs.
I put a 3 prong male plug end on the heater, same as most household plugs
I have a heavy duty cable that has a 3 prong connector body (female end of an extension cord) is 120v. Another is the same only 240v. I labeled them as to not burn up pump or router control. Once condenser starts dripping I switch plugs and go.
BTW my 8 gallon kettle is not yet insulated."
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"Sounds like a dual element would be a way to go if you don't have a 240v source. In a garage it would be ideal if you have 2-120 volt circuits. Just make 2 plugs and drop one when condenser starts producing and regulate the other for needed temp.
You could always mix up the wattage on the heaters too, like BW said you may be able to run the lower element wide open and contol with water."
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" Originally Posted by: Fusefinder Sounds like a dual element would be a way to go if you don't have a 240v source. In a garage it would be ideal if you have 2-120 volt circuits. Just make 2 plugs and drop one when condenser starts producing and regulate the other for needed temp.
You could always mix up the wattage on the heaters too, like BW said you may be able to run the lower element wide open and contol with water. I dont believe wide open can work"
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Well I always hear in school that PIE are square..but found out that PIE are round..cake are square..lol. Sounds like a great set up you got there Fuse. Scotty..the fellas over on the commie liberal off branded .org place say that a 1500 watt element can work wide open. Bound to be right. I am real confident two of them at once can get to boil in 30 mins or close with six gallon charge..maybe 45 for a ten gallon batch. If them folks are wrong..I will quit hanging out on there so much.
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" Originally Posted by: bigwheel Well I always hear in school that PIE are square..but found out that PIE are round..cake are square..lol. Sounds like a great set up you got there Fuse. Scotty..the fellas over on the commie liberal off branded .org place say that a 1500 watt element can work wide open. Bound to be right. I am real confident two of them at once can get to boil in 30 mins or close with six gallon charge..maybe 45 for a ten gallon batch. If them folks are wrong..I will quit hanging out on there so much. It wont work----"
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"It won't work because...maybe...running the heater wide open causes the column/ condenser cooling water to heat up too fast...I did changed the water more frequent.
Is there another dynamic involved that I overlooked...I did my first sugar run in full reflux mode this way,(a complete neutral product)...I would like to know what I missed?
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"I also used a stainless steel pipe clamp to attach a ground wire to the coupler. I had some 1 1/2"" heat shrink that I used to insulate the ring terminals and cable. Then a few wire ties closed the end up. I used 10-3 SOO cord, also used that for the weld plug to kettle cord just to keep the current flowing without restriction. Pics below if they come through.  "
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Looking good Sir. Thanks for the pics. Giving me some brain storms here. Guard that wire..lol. Is mighty precious. The 14 gauge seem to have worked ok on the test boil for the 120 elements. Hopefully they will continue the pattern of behaving themselves. I would need a second mortage on the crib to buy that 10 gauge stuff. I had intended to rewire the bucket and put the green on the metal with a clamp..but the day just slipped away. I am prob a week or two off before I need it. I may just wear shoes and see how that works. The little wires and stuff drives me crazy. I had just about as soon be gut shot as to tear into that mess again. Sides I would have to peel all the high dollar electric tape off of it. I hate to waste stuff.
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"Ok..appreciate the input. Now do we know somebody who has tired it and failed? Will testify it take only a tiny squirt of water to knock down the 1500 watt hot plate when run pedal to the metal. Know the element is more efficient than the plate but thinking a bunch of good pressure cold water could bring it to its knees. I know you know for sure..but unless you got names..addresses and sworn statements..think I try it once just to make sure it no worky. I got Okie kin who lives near Missourii. Thats the show me state ya know? Originally Posted by: scotty It wont work---- "
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