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Offline Newbrew25  
#1 Posted : Monday, December 30, 2013 6:03:15 AM(UTC)
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I'm new to stillin, but I have built and steam tested my own rig. Getting 100% condensation using a 3/4 by 18" long head pipe from the pot lid to a 1/2 soft copper worm. I started with a pretty tight coil 14" round and spaced about 1". Wound up having flow issues and useless condenser coils. Cut it down to 3 wide coils and had much better production results while maintaining 100% condensate. I'm running with a standard stainless pot with a good clamped seal. Building pressure to push the worm. My question is: now that I have the engineering done, what's a good first mix to make about 3 gallons of mash?
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#2 Posted : Monday, December 30, 2013 7:13:45 AM(UTC)
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for your 1st run maybe a sugar wash or Gerber. Kind of hard to screw those up
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#3 Posted : Monday, December 30, 2013 7:14:01 AM(UTC)
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There are a lot of easy moonshine recipes out there. "Home Distillers Workbook" by Jeff King is a good start. On Kindle its like 3$

After so much research you can make your own recipe. For my first run I did an straight corn whiskey recipe.
It is good to start off with an easy recipe that way you are not out much if you flub it up. When I was still learning I made some mistakes.

Everyone told me when I was first starting that I should get a good recipe and use it. . . Well I did not listen.
I have read 100's of recipes and used what I had handy and made my own recipe. I have only been boozn about a year now. I am still learning but I have also made some incredible tasting stuff.

I would not expect your first run to be a master piece. There are many kinks you will have to work out. Like making the proper cuts or size of jars you use, finding the right temp proofing and flavoring. Whether it be with fruit, candy, essence, or oak chips.

So I say pick an easy one. One that you know will work. And give it a try. BigGrin
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#4 Posted : Monday, December 30, 2013 8:15:10 AM(UTC)
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Thanks a ton. I think for my maiden voyage on this rig I'm gonna try a 1 pound cracked corn to a one pound sugar mix. Warming everything up to about 120deg to mix. Materials are cheap here and I'm in no hurry, I've heard and read too many mistakes from people pushing to fast. Again, I appreciate the info and I will be looking into some different combo's once I get a little more seasoned in the art. :)
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:12:52 AM(UTC)
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To all who checked my thread. My maiden voyage was a success, the first batch came out extremely tasty and was about 110 proof before proofing. Looks like the recipe is good for home drinkin shine. Trying a few different things now, different yeast, more / less sugar, more / less corn. Looks like the still is working great. Thanks again for the inputs guys, feel free to post any other helpful tips or questions.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:47:20 PM(UTC)
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Congrats on your first run Newbrew25. Looks like you are well on your way to making some great hooch. What's your next mash going to be?
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#7 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:02:53 AM(UTC)
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I was thinking of taking out the sugar for now and making some watermelon brandy using brewers yeast. The only problem is the temperature at which brewers yeast needs to ferment. Won't be able to use that until the summertime. However with the cool activation of bakers yeast I might be able to score at least 100 proof. I think watermelon shine would taste pretty good.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:02:53 AM(UTC)
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I have made all kinds of "brandy" watermelon, strawberry, grape and even a fruity salad with strawberries, pineapple, cantaloupe, grapes, and watermelon.

I have made brandy out of Juicy Juice, the Simply juices and even 126 bottles of different Naked Juices.

I must say ... it has all tasted pretty good for drinking but it did not have the watermelon taste that I wanted.

So I ended up running them through to a high proof and using them to mix with.

Pureed watermelon and brandyshine on ice was amazing!

Or 3/4 cup of sugar and hand full of strawberries in a qrt of the brandyshine. Good as eff ... << the girls loved the strawberry ~tasted like really strong strawberry wine~
same mixture with blueberries or blackberries were excellent also. Mix any with lemonade and it is a great summer drink.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, January 09, 2014 2:19:21 PM(UTC)
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When you say "running it through to a high proof" are you re-runnin the finished product? Or do you add the shine back to the mash and run it again? I've read about running through again but there were never specifics. I thought 100 proof with bakers yeast was a good run the first time but hell, if I can make 140 or 150 on the product I'll work that in.
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#10 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2014 12:09:52 AM(UTC)
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I started the run without the reflux part of the still on. After tasting it, I turned the reflux on and stripped the brandy down to a very neutral spirit. I was Getting 180 proof out of the still after turning the reflux on.
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#11 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:13:29 AM(UTC)
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Running my second batch, made some modifications to the worm for more downhill flow, only thing is now I'm getting a huffing effect from the tail end. It feels like vapor coming out but my worm is still cool at the bottom coil. Am I losing alcohol vapor here? The first jar was an easy 130 proof, second a little less, working the third jar now. I'm running a 3 gallon mash and not really sure how much good shine I should be getting. Not running a thumper, but I'm cookin 200 deg to push my pressure pot. (Higher pressure = higher boiling point). Just asking some questions now because as the name applies, I am still new to this. Any info is always greatly appreciated
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#12 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 6:38:07 AM(UTC)
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I'm running my second batch right now, but being as that I'm still new to this I was going to ask a few questions. I'm getting a "huffing" effect on the tail end of my worm. Now I have made some modifications to it to increase flow, and I'm running without a thumper. Good clear product on a pressure pot. Running about 200 degrees to flash, (higher pressure = higher boiling point). The question is am I losing alcohol this way? My worm is still cold on the bottom coil, so I know I'm condensing. Any info is greatly appreciated. Oh, and I made 3 pint jars all over 90 proof (by taste experience) should I be making more shine from a 3 gallon mash?
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#13 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 6:41:39 AM(UTC)
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Evidently my phone is slow. I apologize for duplicate posts.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:11:49 AM(UTC)
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"next run regulate your heat better, like not so hot or slowly turn it up so you get a dribble of liquid. 200F right form the getgo is too hot!!!! Slow down with the heat and you will like your likker better!

Cook it slow and make your condenser water cold."
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#15 Posted : Saturday, January 18, 2014 6:08:21 AM(UTC)
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Turns out the next batch I cooked was excellent!!!! Ran it slow and cool, bout 180 deg before pushin the worm, also made a mod that took care of the huffing effect. The last batch of three gallon mash made over 5 pints of good strong shine. Using a pound by gallon recipe it worked great. Thus the reason for this thread, finding the perfect recipe, and fellas, I believe I have found the perfect recipe for good quality shine. Thanks to all that replied to my thread, and to all......happy good times shining.
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#16 Posted : Friday, February 14, 2014 1:57:57 PM(UTC)
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Ladies and gentlemen, I think I have found the perfect 3 gallon cut. 3 pounds cracked corn, 3 pounds + 1 cup sugar, and 2 teaspoons yeast. Heat ingredients to 135 deg while stirring, let lol to 100 and add yeast. Stir like a madman and let set for 6 days. It's gonna stink like hell but it makes a solid 1/4 of 150 proof the first run. This is just a base line, but works great on all quantities. ( do the math for more gallons). It's what I got, without rye, trying that next. Any more ideas feel free to chime in as always. :) happy shinin
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#17 Posted : Saturday, February 15, 2014 11:25:10 AM(UTC)
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Guys, we all know the moonshiners secret to success. Apple pie moonshine. And I have found a VERY good tasting but still strong recipe for apple pie. I'll share the recipe on the basis of replies to this thread. Unless you have a badass recipe already. :) happy shinin
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#18 Posted : Sunday, February 16, 2014 5:18:38 AM(UTC)
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I got a Apple pie recipe off the internet that uses concentrated apple juice - it is really spicy. Most recipes I see use apple cider as the base but I have not tried one yet. What's your secret?
Tom
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#19 Posted : Sunday, February 16, 2014 10:40:58 AM(UTC)
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Well. Lets hear that apple pie recipe. I have yet to find an apple pie recipe I like.
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#20 Posted : Monday, February 17, 2014 4:55:46 AM(UTC)
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"I think this originally came from Clawhammer Stills but not sure: Like is said it is spicy with the brown sugar and the cinnamon.
Tom"
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