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"I have a 1 foot extension at the bottom of my 2 inch column. i added that so i could have a place to pack the copper mesh. The regular 2 inch column with the 2 coolong tubes at the top has a plate screwed to its base with holes in it. Packing the top with copper is a pain. I find raschig rings easiest to pack the top section as they can easily be poured into and out of the top. THE QUESTION???????? i have been packing the raschig rings to just under the cooling tubes. would adding enough raschig rings so as to cover both tubes work any better??? Scotty "
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" Originally Posted by: scotty I have a 1 foot extension at the bottom of my 2 inch column. i added that so i could have a place to pack the copper mesh. The regular 2 inch column with the 2 coolong tubes at the top has a plate screwed to its base with holes in it. Packing the top with copper is a pain. I find raschig rings easiest to pack the top section as they can easily be poured into and out of the top. THE QUESTION???????? i have been packing the raschig rings to just under the cooling tubes. would adding enough raschig rings so as to cover both tubes work any better??? Scotty Yes, but some copper balls packed around them will work better as they will help dissapate the cold from the tubes better and increase reflux dramatically. They are a much better thermal conductor."
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"Gotcha:) Another thought that i have is to have 2 more 1/2 inch stainless tubes installed near the original 2. There is plenty of room. What do you think of that????? "
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" Originally Posted by: scotty Gotcha:) Another thought that i have is to have 2 more 1/2 inch stainless tubes installed near the original 2. There is plenty of room. What do you think of that????? Personally, I think that would be an excellent idea. Twould increase reflux and allow much tighter and more pure cuts. Yeah, I would recommend that."
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i have one more crazy idea but it will keep .thanks for the reply
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" Originally Posted by: mtnwalker2 Yes, but some copper balls packed around them will work better as they will help dissapate the cold from the tubes better and increase reflux dramatically. They are a much better thermal conductor. Bingo - added 6 copper scrubbers around my cooling pipes on my HC2 Pro. Made all the difference in the world. Now cooling management works spot on."
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" Originally Posted by: ratflinger Bingo - added 6 copper scrubbers around my cooling pipes on my HC2 Pro. Made all the difference in the world. Now cooling management works spot on. I gues that's the ticket:)"
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" Originally Posted by: scotty I gues that's the ticket:) Somewhere way back when, Brewhaus had just come out with the HC unit and I bit into it. First few runs were awfull. Wrote into Brewhaus and rick told me to toss in some gravel, broken glass aor crockery as boiling chips, then insulate my column with mud, clay, paper mache, beach towel or whatever and to pack my through tubes with copper balls. Next run went from really nasty stuff to the best ever. They have made immense improvements in the HC unit since and I recently bought a new one. Now I can run 2, one doing stripping s and the new one doing the spirit run. I'm cheating. I only use the top half of the old one for the stripping run, like a pot still, and add the bottom to the new one, so I have basically a 6' column of 3"". talk about quality. I use kegs and propane. My distilling time is very limited, so have to make the most of it. Sure works for me."
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say i was just looking around for copper scrubbers and now i am wondering why not just use some copper mesh if we have some around. i will definitely pack the tubes with something on the next run.
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"Has anyone used copper BB's as scrubbers? I know they are only coated but will they work? TS"
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How in the world will you get em to stay up in the tower????? Pot scrubbers will work MUCH better and are very cheap. Not sayin they wont work just curious.
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I would be afraid the copper coated BBs would quickly degrade like the copper coated scrubbers. That would ruin a good batch. If you can't get pure copper, use SS scrubbers, a next best choice. But not as good.
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"I've been using copper mesh, but wanted something that formed around the cross tubes better. TS"
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"I use small copper balls, inserted with very long needle nosed pliers into place. Very easy to remove also with the pliers.
works for me."
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" Originally Posted by: mtnwalker2 . I use kegs and propane.
mw2 - where did you get the ferrules & how hard were they to attach (weld I assume)? I'm picking up my kegs today & I'm moving my 3"" column over. I'm going with water heater elements though, as the wife is deathly afraid I'll burn the house down with propane. "
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"Mtnwalker2, where did you get the copper balls? I'm finding it a bit difficult to locate them on the web. TS"
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" Originally Posted by: mtnwalker2 I use small copper balls, inserted with very long needle nosed pliers into place. Very easy to remove also with the pliers.
works for me. Are you sure they're copper? I heard you had a lot of big brass balls laying around. "
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" Originally Posted by: ratflinger Are you sure they're copper? I heard you had a lot of big brass balls laying around. HA! Tell me who told you that and let her show up and I will explain and show her the difference. 2 differnt columns, for a totally different extract. Trying to figure out how to get a triclover hitch to extend length and quality there also. O Well! As to the coppper balls, I got a lot of surplus withmy Brewhous order for the high capacity column almst 8 years ago. My copper is still good, though I learned early on never to wash it with acid or viniger, or lemon juice. The worse it looks, the better it scubs sulfatesor oxides. Brass balls indeed, I have a heci or a time getting he lead out. Mountain Walker, the brass bingo."
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I really enjoy when the threads get so high tech
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