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Offline JasperNewtonJack  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:23:11 AM(UTC)
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"Any reason not to ask Rick to weld a 3'' tri-clamp ferrule,

http://www.brewhaus.com/...mp-Ferrule-P954C130.aspx

to the top of a PSII HC column to accept a 3"" tri-clamp cap with a temperature probe,

http://www.brewershardwa...erature-Probe-End-3.html

or a 3"" tri-clamp cap with, say a 1/4"" compression adapter (to accept a temperature probe),

http://www.brewershardwa...ion-Adapter-TC20C14.html

in place of the rubber bung? Any potential (negative) impact to the performance of the PSII HC column with this type of modification?

The BrewersHardware.com caps are smaller, but I'm sure 3"" versions are available."
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:02:04 PM(UTC)
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I wish i had one of thos on the top of my column so i could experiment with additional devices there. Or perhaps mount a flashing light to impress my friends :))
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#3 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 1:09:35 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JasperNewtonJack Go to Quoted Post
Any reason not to ask Rick to weld a 3'' tri-clamp ferrule,

http://www.brewhaus.com/...mp-Ferrule-P954C130.aspx

to the top of a PSII HC column to accept a 3" tri-clamp cap with a temperature probe,

http://www.brewershardwa...erature-Probe-End-3.html

or a 3" tri-clamp cap with, say a 1/4" compression adapter (to accept a temperature probe),

http://www.brewershardwa...ion-Adapter-TC20C14.html

in place of the rubber bung? Any potential (negative) impact to the performance of the PSII HC column with this type of modification?

The BrewersHardware.com caps are smaller, but I'm sure 3" versions are available.

Hi Jas,
Try sending Rick an email. Bayou Ruler has this similar mod on the 2 inch column. I was going to go with something similar but after doing a bit more research found that it is not really needed.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:22:36 AM(UTC)
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MD I was considering making another removable cooling coil that would be installed in a 1 foot removable extension to possibly have the tower act as another style of still.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:55:52 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: scotty Go to Quoted Post
MD I was considering making another removable cooling coil that would be installed in a 1 foot removable extension to possibly have the tower act as another style of still.

Hi Scotty,
An additional condenser coil?
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#6 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:12:52 AM(UTC)
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I was going to go with something similar but after doing a bit more research found that it is not really needed.


I agree that it's not needed. I could insert my digital temperature probe into the rubber bung. However, you have this beautiful stainless steel column with a rubber bung in the end of it. Even the name, ""bung"", turns me off. Wink

I wanted to make sure that the rubber bung isn't intended to serve as a form of pressure relief valve."
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#7 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:24:11 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JasperNewtonJack Go to Quoted Post
I agree that it's not needed. I could insert my digital temperature probe into the rubber bung. However, you have this beautiful stainless steel column with a rubber bung in the end of it. Even the name, "bung", turns me off. Wink

I wanted to make sure that the rubber bung isn't intended to serve as a form of pressure relief valve.

Hi Jas,
With the 15 gallon kettle, unless you are 6.5 you are not going to see it. I'm 5.10 and had to get on a step ladder to put it in. I think Rick can put a ferrule and cap with tri-clamp ( you should ask him). When properly run the PS2HC should not build any pressure but if you have a blockage somewhere the bung will just pop out whereas if you have the top clamped you may turn your still into a bomb. What I was going to do was drill a second hole in the cap and place a marble over it, any pressure will just pop the marble off.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:38:53 AM(UTC)
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With the 15 gallon kettle, unless you are 6.5 you are not going to see it. I'm 5.10 and had to get on a step ladder to put it in.


If it's not obvious, the digital temperature probe is wired.

Quote:
When properly run the PS2HC should not build any pressure but if you have a blockage somewhere the bung will just pop out whereas if you have the top clamped you may turn your still into a bomb. What I was going to do was drill a second hole in the cap and place a marble over it, any pressure will just pop the marble off.


That was my concern. Forgive my ignorance, but ...

Where would the column most likely get blocked? I assume folks don't have any type of pressure relief on the kettle itself. Is the top of the column the only point at which you'd consider the need for pressure relief?

Thanks Maddawgs."
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#9 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:43:04 AM(UTC)
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Hi Scotty,
An additional condenser coil?
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Not to be used at the same time but alone after adding a return tube if some sort and using the rig as a liquid management. --- I really dont know why i would want to but it is just something i visualised a while back. Mostly just day dreaming of mods."
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#10 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:10:39 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: JasperNewtonJack Go to Quoted Post
If it's not obvious, the digital temperature probe is wired.



That was my concern. Forgive my ignorance, but ...

Where would the column most likely get blocked? I assume folks don't have any type of pressure relief on the kettle itself. Is the top of the column the only point at which you'd consider the need for pressure relief?

Thanks Maddawgs.

Hi Jas,
The digital temp probe that comes with the PS2HC is a simple push thru. In Bayou Ruler's mods, he had switched to a wired. I may do the same just to bring the readout down to eye level. Blockage could be anything from to much packing to little crawly things nesting in your liebig condenser (it has happened to others). I'm not really much newer at this than you are (just got my unit yesterday) but I would think you could place a pressure relief anywhere. Pressure like any form of force, seeks the path of least resistance. I think (and I could be wrong) that BH uses the bung area because it works.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:12:45 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: scotty Go to Quoted Post
Not to be used at the same time but alone after adding a return tube if some sort and using the rig as a liquid management. --- I really dont know why i would want to but it is just something i visualised a while back. Mostly just day dreaming of mods.

Ah, so turn the cm into an lm by just swapping out the condenser. Would be an interesting mod.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 7:06:53 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Maddawgs Go to Quoted Post
Ah, so turn the cm into an lm by just swapping out the condenser. Would be an interesting mod.
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I really dont think the LM rig would produce better product-- i have a hard time seein what seems obvious to so many folks ??? What do you think?????
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#13 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:09:42 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: scotty Go to Quoted Post
I really dont think the LM rig would produce better product-- i have a hard time seein what seems obvious to so many folks ??? What do you think?????


Hi Scotty,
Just a different way of accomplishing the same goal. The lm's and vm's are each a liitle better at different parts of the process and a cm is a good compromise between the two.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:16:20 AM(UTC)
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i cant really visualise that they are better in any way-i would like lots of discussion on this topic. Maybe then i could understand how either one could do any better than a slow run with a good CM ric
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#15 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:42:45 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: scotty Go to Quoted Post
i cant really visualise that they are better in any way-i would like lots of discussion on this topic. Maybe then i could understand how either one could do any better than a slow run with a good CM ric

I think from descriptions in "The Compleat Distiller" (and I could be wrong) that one compresses heads better and one compresses tails better. The cm does a pretty good job when run correctly of both so it is a good compromise. Going with your original thought to have the ability to do a quick change and do any of the 3 would be a pretty good mod (for those tinkering types). Me I think for what I want to do which is neutrals, the PS2HC is perfect and I have the option of switching it to pot mode (another pretty good mod) pretty quickly if I want to do a whiskey or rum run. The only upgrade I would consider in the future would be to add a fluted plate or bubble cap column for high abv whiskey type runs.
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